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Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

#51

Can we trust Microsoft with anything? I certainly trust them to put profit above all else in every situation.

This the crux of the issue. And it’s why you can basically ask “Can we trust with open source?” and always answer definitively No. one is collaborative “commons” economy, the other is an attempt to make a deal between a baron and their serfs. Ultimately, each is striving against each other.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

#54

I've been using some of the most expensive Visual Studio subscriptions for probably decades. This thing is so jam-packed with features, I'll probably never know what half of them do. But I definitely have access to hot-reload. Anyway, it doesn't really go to the point, but it's funny to me that I've had this hot-reload feature the whole time, and just have never found much use for it. Or maybe I just don't trust it.

IME it can be unreliable and just doesn't end up being all that useful. C# compile times being what they are, it's not such a burden to stop and rerun for minor changes.

Not like my C++ projects which take several minutes to build because Windows Defender wants to use 50-80% of my CPU to monitor the compiler for malware. Wish I could hot reload one TU or something.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

#56
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Unfortunately, you can trust MS about as much as any company in 2024. The core ethos of OSS is, in many ways, a thing of the past.

The FOSS community raised a generation of VC darlings who loved parroting the "we'll just do the hosting and keep the data, that's where the money is!" line, and who never considered (or ignored, or perhaps knew but didn't care about) the fact that the number must always go up. Not "must go up to a certain point and then everyone's happy", "always".

There is no scenario under which some ghoul comes to Stanford, tells you you're Jesus Christ with a MacBook Pro, offers you millions of dollars to pursue your passion project if you drop out, and doesn't expect unending increases in returns even at the cost of the core philosophy of the software development community you came up in. That's literally their job.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

#60

MS is still ultimately a company that values its profits, so "open source" to them is just "free labour".

Relevant article: https://zedshaw.com/blog/2022-02-05-the-beggar-barons/

I'd originally told them "just follow the docs" because normally Microsoft's documentation is top notch, but this time I was dead wrong.

MS' docs have been on a steady decline ever since they moved away from MSDN and went to an "open source" "community project" with them. For some of the newer stuff, a page without any spelling or grammar errors or unnaturally odd phrasing is exceedingly rare, and I have heard that they are attempting to use AI to write and edit them. I've seen older pages from MSDN era get destroyed and turned into a mess due to their edits presumably to optimise for SEO (and thus not humans.) It will only get worse. They of course beg people to contribute fixes, as that article alludes to, but there's no point in doing that when you know your contributions are just going to get mangled into AI-generated muck.

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