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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by spiderfarmer »

curiousllama wrote: post #481
throw4847285 wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in response to your second point, I do think that's specific to you and your circles. I know multiple retired or semi-retired people who have moved towards the center of a city. Without work to keep them occupied, they want the hustle and bustle, which means something to do. And driving has become more of a hassle and a barrier to the kinds of lives they want to live. These are east coast or midwest cities, so m…

Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater

Exactly this. I grew up on a farm, was a student in the city, started a family in the countryside and I want to retire in a city, as long as it’s close to my children.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by pie420 »

fabian2k wrote: post #31

Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.

"very good remote work options"

You realize Teams is pre-installed on like every windows machine, right? that's literally all you need for remote work. And most people agree that remote works is preferable/more more productive

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #515
jrflowers wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“You mentioned that bringing back nazis killed the site but curiously you did not at any point in any way imply that it is the world’s biggest platform… The argument you’re making solely in my head isn’t very consistent!”

Are the nazis here in the room with us, right now?

If they are, they're quiet about it. Dang tends to shadow/ban them when they go much further than "IQ isn't racist: some races are just better".

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by bluGill »

curiousllama wrote: post #481
throw4847285 wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in response to your second point, I do think that's specific to you and your circles. I know multiple retired or semi-retired people who have moved towards the center of a city. Without work to keep them occupied, they want the hustle and bustle, which means something to do. And driving has become more of a hassle and a barrier to the kinds of lives they want to live. These are east coast or midwest cities, so m…

Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater

Middle ages folks hate it because they are most likely to have kids and cities (in the US) tend to be kid hostile. What I'm calling city below is probably better described as downtown - most cities extend out farther and have areas that are nothing like what follows - but are also nothing like what you described as what people move to the city for.

Parks in the city tend to be focused on art. They often lack kid basics like swings and sand. They tend to be too small for a ball game. Often the people who are there will yell at kids for running off the path, yelling and the other ways kids play.

Bars and clubs are not kid friendly places. Middle age folks are much less interested. If you are middle aged and hang out in a bar you are an alcoholic. Clubs often have an minimum age, so going means an expensive babysitter. (bars might allow kids to eat there).

Theater is similar to bars - kids might not be banned, but they are not really welcome either. Both because the shows are not what kids would be interested in, and because they will kick out the kids if they are noisy (which they will be - not kid friendly shows).

Restaurants will allow kids, but often you get dirty looks for bring kids. Many of the others do not like kids and will let you know if your kids are misbehaving - what they define as misbehaving is normal for kids.

Then we add in costs - all of the above is affordable when it is just 1 or two adults, but with kids it is either a lot more expensive to bring this with or you hire a babysitter. You also need larger apartments - most are 1 or 2 bedrooms, but a family wants at least 3 and likely more. You can buy a house in the suburbs with 4 bedrooms and other extra rooms for less than the month payment on a city apartment.

Last there are schools which tend to be bad quality. I've concluded that this because of the other factors above - few families live there and so not enough people care to make them good. It does however stop many families that might want to try living in the city.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by LightBug1 »

latentcall wrote: post #516
acedTrex wrote: post #501

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Agree but it appears a sizeable amount of young men see themselves in him somehow and therefore idolize him. As long as he has that cult of personality, people will gladly accept the abuse for a chance to be near him.

Temporarily embarassed billionaires who think he will save their embarassment ...

What a waste of talent ...

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by jrflowers »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #515
jrflowers wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“You mentioned that bringing back nazis killed the site but curiously you did not at any point in any way imply that it is the world’s biggest platform… The argument you’re making solely in my head isn’t very consistent!”

Are the nazis here in the room with us, right now?

This isn’t Twitter. This is a different website.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by pie420 »

thr0w wrote: post #174
zknill wrote: post #51

I don't know US commutes, or US geography too well. But it seems these two locations are about 45mins-1hr drive from each other. Where do folks actually live in those areas? Is it that a 30min drive north to San Fran becomes a 30min drive south to San Jose?

I'm imagining hordes of 20-something engineers living in the Mission with a 15 minute flat bicycle commute to the X office now having to grapple with getting to San Jose. Probably pretty rough news for a decent amount of people.

they will just work remote

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by robxorb »

dang wrote: post #366
robxorb wrote: post #363

Why is the title of the HN post changed to read "Twitter", when the linked article title states correctly "X", and is otherwise identical?

I did that because I don't know anyone who doesn't still call it Twitter.

Well, when I got up this morning I didn't think I'd be doing this today:

> please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by pie420 »

citizenkeen wrote: post #194
ulfw wrote: post #164

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Both are quite boring mid-size cities that are heavily overpriced for what they offer. SF is more exciting/prettier yet less safe than SJ.

The 17th largest city in the US is mid-sized?

yeah, SF is only 800k people, it is pretty small, and the sunset, richmond, parkside, excelcior, and visitation valley neighborhoods are basically single-family subrubs.

Realistically, SF is only a city in it's north-east quadrant. the rest are cute, sleepy suburbs. And I say that as someone who lives in one of those neighborhoods.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by gumby »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #520
gumby wrote: post #497

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Back in the early 90s my wife and I moved to SF because it had a thriving art and music scene and more interesting culture than the 'burbs of palo alto. But as you say, the long commute to SV was a killer and we moved back down. Back then SF was a bedroom community for SV with no tech sector. Businesses up there were banking (Wells Fargo, BofA, Crocker etc), retail, the local stock exchange, and a bunch of manufactur…

they went to Santa Cruz, man. Go Slugs!

The Taiwan of the countercultural Bay Area.
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