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AI agents but they're working in big tech

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Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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"Research shows that AI systems with 30+ agents out-performs a simple LLM call in practically any task (see More Agents Is All You Need), reducing hallucinations and improving accuracy."

Has anyone heard of that actually playing out practically in real-world applications? This article links to the paper about it - https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.05120 - but I've not heard from anyone who's implementing production systems successfully in that way.

(I still don't actually know what an "agent" is, to be honest. I'm pretty sure there are dozens of conflicting definitions floating around out there by now.)

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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Is there an agent framework that lives up to the hype?

Where you specify a top-level objective, it plans out those objectives, it selects a completion metric so that it knows when to finish, and iterates/reiterates over the output until completion?

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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post #3

"Research shows that AI systems with 30+ agents out-performs a simple LLM call in practically any task (see More Agents Is All You Need), reducing hallucinations and improving accuracy." Has anyone heard of that actually playing out practically in real-world applications? This article links to the paper about it - https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.05120 - but I've not heard from anyone who's implementing production systems…

I bet they spend 95% of their time in agile refinement meetings.

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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post #4

Is there an agent framework that lives up to the hype? Where you specify a top-level objective, it plans out those objectives, it selects a completion metric so that it knows when to finish, and iterates/reiterates over the output until completion?

To this date, ChatGPT Code Interpreter is still the most impressive implementation of this pattern that I've seen.

Give it a task, it writes code, runs the code, gets errors, fixes bugs, tries again generally until it succeeds.

That's over a year old at this point, and it's not clear to me if it counts as an "agent" by many people's definitions (which are often frustratingly vague).

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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post #3

"Research shows that AI systems with 30+ agents out-performs a simple LLM call in practically any task (see More Agents Is All You Need), reducing hallucinations and improving accuracy." Has anyone heard of that actually playing out practically in real-world applications? This article links to the paper about it - https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.05120 - but I've not heard from anyone who's implementing production systems…

I would check out this company, Swarms (https://github.com/kyegomez/swarms) who's working with enterprises to integrate multi-agents. But definitely a great point to focus on, the research paper mentions that the scaling of performance reduces with complexity of the task, which is definitely true for SWE

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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post #4

Is there an agent framework that lives up to the hype? Where you specify a top-level objective, it plans out those objectives, it selects a completion metric so that it knows when to finish, and iterates/reiterates over the output until completion?

Well, you have Cognition AI and Devin that became a recent unicorn startup (partnerships with Microsoft and stuff) but true, I can't think of an agent that actually lives up to the hype (heard Devin wasn't great).

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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post #3

"Research shows that AI systems with 30+ agents out-performs a simple LLM call in practically any task (see More Agents Is All You Need), reducing hallucinations and improving accuracy." Has anyone heard of that actually playing out practically in real-world applications? This article links to the paper about it - https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.05120 - but I've not heard from anyone who's implementing production systems…

I would check out this company, Swarms ( https://github.com/kyegomez/swarms ) who's working with enterprises to integrate multi-agents. But definitely a great point to focus on, the research paper mentions that the scaling of performance reduces with complexity of the task, which is definitely true for SWE

I totally believe that people are selling solutions around this idea, what I'd like to hear is genuine success stories from people who have used them in production (and aren't currently employed by a vendor).

Re: AI agents but they're working in big tech

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post #3

"Research shows that AI systems with 30+ agents out-performs a simple LLM call in practically any task (see More Agents Is All You Need), reducing hallucinations and improving accuracy." Has anyone heard of that actually playing out practically in real-world applications? This article links to the paper about it - https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.05120 - but I've not heard from anyone who's implementing production systems…

"agent" is a buzzword. All it is, is a bunch of LLM calls in a while loop.

- 'rag' is meaningless as a concept. imagine calling a web app 'database augmented programming'. [1]

- 'agent' probably just means 'run an llm in a loop' [1]

[1] https://x.com/atroyn/status/1819396701217870102

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