Live data from Hacker News

Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

reuters.com

21–30 of 37 posts

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#21
DuckDuckGo should be banned globally for all I care.

Never allowed anyone to inspect their premisses, hardware/software and yet claim privacy. I understand many people here will not know any better and still a slightly better approach than using google or yandex, still a quite sus option for the casual informed user in Europe.

3/10, would not recommend nor care.

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#22

DuckDuckGo should be banned globally for all I care. Never allowed anyone to inspect their premisses, hardware/software and yet claim privacy. I understand many people here will not know any better and still a slightly better approach than using google or yandex, still a quite sus option for the casual informed user in Europe. 3/10, would not recommend nor care.

What would you recommend instead?

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#23

DuckDuckGo should be banned globally for all I care. Never allowed anyone to inspect their premisses, hardware/software and yet claim privacy. I understand many people here will not know any better and still a slightly better approach than using google or yandex, still a quite sus option for the casual informed user in Europe. 3/10, would not recommend nor care.

What would you recommend instead?

SearX

You can install/run from your own server, or just use a public version like this one here: https://metasearx.com/

Source code is available for verification. You can host yourself or choose from multiple domains to access.

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#24

DuckDuckGo should be banned globally for all I care. Never allowed anyone to inspect their premisses, hardware/software and yet claim privacy. I understand many people here will not know any better and still a slightly better approach than using google or yandex, still a quite sus option for the casual informed user in Europe. 3/10, would not recommend nor care.

What would you recommend instead?

startpage.com is good, but light on features. brave search offers the best features, however its independent index has its limits.

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#25

For online gambling, why not just tax the stuff? India pulls in 30% of any player's winnings as tax, for example. The gaming companies also have to pay 28% of their revenue (yes, revenue, not income).

Because some of them are backed up by powerful people. Most of the time this kind of action is just posturing, and not really fixing the problem

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#26
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The laws are to enforce the ruling group's religious morals.

Perhaps, it could also be protecting the masses from exploitation of gambling companies. The odds are never in a gambler's favor.

Both. Most religions consider gambling immoral because it leads to social harm. You need to favor personal freedoms and personal responsibility more to justify taxing gambling rather than banning it. Or acknowledging that prohibition may cause more social harm than not. But only more secular governments get to allow harmful vices for the greater good.

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you recommend instead?

SearX You can install/run from your own server, or just use a public version like this one here: https://metasearx.com/ Source code is available for verification. You can host yourself or choose from multiple domains to access.

How do you confirm the public instances are running the blessed version of the source code?

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#28
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, it could also be protecting the masses from exploitation of gambling companies. The odds are never in a gambler's favor.

Both. Most religions consider gambling immoral because it leads to social harm. You need to favor personal freedoms and personal responsibility more to justify taxing gambling rather than banning it. Or acknowledging that prohibition may cause more social harm than not. But only more secular governments get to allow harmful vices for the greater good.

“Only more secular governments get to allow harmful vices for the greater good.” I hadn’t really thought about it before, but yeah, that’s naturally the way it goes.

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SearX You can install/run from your own server, or just use a public version like this one here: https://metasearx.com/ Source code is available for verification. You can host yourself or choose from multiple domains to access.

How do you confirm the public instances are running the blessed version of the source code?

You don't.

For that scenario you 1) download the code, 2) verify yourself what is inside and then 3) compile. (optional 4) Subsequent versions check on the delta of changes.

There is a cost to your time/effort in performing this type of action that is proportional to the criticality of your context and the level of trust you place on the providers.

TLDR: The less you trust, the more you verify

Re: Indonesia bans search engine DuckDuckGo on gambling, pornography concerns

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you confirm the public instances are running the blessed version of the source code?

You don't. For that scenario you 1) download the code, 2) verify yourself what is inside and then 3) compile. (optional 4) Subsequent versions check on the delta of changes. There is a cost to your time/effort in performing this type of action that is proportional to the criticality of your context and the level of trust you place on the providers. TLDR: The less you trust, the more you verify

To deploy it I think you mean on a vps. Now all your searches by Searx will be routed to other engines with the IP of your vps. So unless you deploy it with something like gluten to provide VPN access for searx. You will let those engines build profile about you. If you use the public instances so that more people are using it you don't know if they are running the unmodified source code.

Id you go with the route of VPN with sear then you probably use VPN with search engines like DDG directly. And don't save cookies on the browser.

Post reply on HN