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Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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Taiwan has obviously been watching the Hong Kong integration closely. Had it gone much better, Taiwan would have probably agreed to something similar. Frankly I think they were actually expecting much worse. An EU-style arrangement seems ideal in the medium term. It lets Taiwan have a positive long-term influence on Chinese politics, while preventing HK-style crackdowns in the other direction.

No it won't, China will eventually impose its policies on Taiwan. It is just a matter of time. What China did to HK was blatantly breaking a treaty with the UK. Do you think for the minute Taiwan does this EU thing the same will not eventually happen ?

In the union-style arrangements, Taiwan retains its military and thus its negotiating power.

It's basically a big de-escalation from the crisis we have now and a major step towards their future together in "One China." Unlike HK, it's done gradually and at arm's length.

Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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Nothing would do more to get the US out of the PRC's backyard than if the TW crisis is resolved amicably with an EU-style arrangement. I think the PRC is aware that if there is a PRC-TW war, there is nothing that will stop Japan from ramping up their military and acquiring a nuclear deterrent. The situation on the Korean peninsula is even easier to destabilize. I'm reassured by the fact that the PRC has not taken ste…

E: accidentally posted empty reply US won't leave JP/SKR/PH irrespective of TW, where they have token presence, and not integral to US east asia security architecture. That's really the broader security consideration, PRC doesn't want US in her backyard, PRC wants her own Munroe, and historically that involves forcing hegemon out / demonstrating their presense cannot be sustained. JP/SKR nuclearizing more complex top…

It's not that Japan and South Korea going nuclear erodes US control, it's just that all proliferation is inherently destabilizing. Believe it or not, the US is not "in it for the imperialism" like, say, Russia is in Africa.

Personally I think that it's pretty much unavoidable for both. The only tricky part is not tipping the North Koreans over the edge. It's not as destabilizing as proliferation in other regions would be just because there isn't a long list of other countries that might domino afterwards.

As for the Chinese trade-to-GDP ratio, it doesn't really capture how the economy is structured, particularly how far it leans into its comparative advantage. Many EU economies have higher ratios but are not imbalanced in this fashion. Italy buys French wine and France buys Italian wine. But if the world stops driving cars tomorrow, Germany (which is more like China in this respect) is going to hurt bad.

I would also caution you against thinking that there's such a thing as "spoils" anymore - certainly not post-WW2. Just look at how expensive the fields of Ukrainian rubble are turning out to be for Russia. Obviously Russia is looking at a bigger picture, or it would be regretting the war.

In today's world, denying GDP is easy, capturing it is very hard.

Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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The whole post is low quality simping for war in one more geography pushed by the thin veneer of drum beats of the US military media. It's the same "Iraq has wmd" Bs all over again pushed by these trash rags. Of course it will be "low quality and flamebait" for y'all

You may be right about the article but I was talking about your HN comments.

Pushing for diplomacy and peace for better economy is heresy now as it always was. It's your forum so I will stop commenting. Peace out

Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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Likely talking about Southport riots: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_riots

Exactly, so far the press say that's are just a bunch of fascist, and I've no doubt those are the organizers and some most thugs in action, but most of the participating mass I bet are just impoverished people, like https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/oct/30/my-student... or https://news.sky.com/story/food-bank-users-refusing-potatoes... and also https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4165370/national-scandal-...…

The vast majority of impoverished people manage to get through their day without attacking a mosque. These people aren’t rioting because they’re poor, they’re rioting because they are racists.

If there’s a correlation between being a racist thug and being impoverished, the causation is likely low intelligence.

Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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The US has pointedly never guaranteed protection for Taiwan. Its policy has been "strategic ambiguity."

That’s what they say to the public. My suspicion is they have an ironclad diplomatic agreement behind the scenes

US will do whatever is convenient for them at that moment.

Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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E: accidentally posted empty reply US won't leave JP/SKR/PH irrespective of TW, where they have token presence, and not integral to US east asia security architecture. That's really the broader security consideration, PRC doesn't want US in her backyard, PRC wants her own Munroe, and historically that involves forcing hegemon out / demonstrating their presense cannot be sustained. JP/SKR nuclearizing more complex top…

It's not that Japan and South Korea going nuclear erodes US control, it's just that all proliferation is inherently destabilizing. Believe it or not, the US is not "in it for the imperialism" like, say, Russia is in Africa. Personally I think that it's pretty much unavoidable for both. The only tricky part is not tipping the North Koreans over the edge. It's not as destabilizing as proliferation in other regions woul…

I didn't characterize US control as imperialist, I characterize it as hegemonic. Much of the post WW2 treatsies in region were specifically setup to enable US security presence to uphold military hegemony via forward basing and keeping basing partners denuclearized to make them dependant on US security commitments. Nuclear domino "afterwards" is also matter of time frames and geography. If JP/SKR nuclearizes, PRC will work towards south american nuclearization in US backyard when conditions enables it, including selling all the missile and launch hardware (see Saudi). That's what US has to worry about about loosening proliferation.

Export:GDP does capture sense of limits of damage. Having only 20% (PRC), vs 50% (Germany) matters. @20%, 10% of which is trade to west, PRC is simply not export dependant, it doesn't have same exposure profile, i.e. for all the talk of PRC auto excess capacity, ~10% of production went towards export, meanwhile DE is 60%+. The difference is between a mild sprain vs spine snapping.

I think post WW3, can be like post WW2, where huge consolidation of spoils under US control after every other industrial powers was crippled. Yes, capturing GDP in peacetime against incumbent is _HARD_, especially in strategic sectors with large moats (geopolitical not just technical). So hard that what ends up being easier might be to _destroy_ concentration of GDP. PRC hitting Boeing, F35 plants, mastercard / payment processors, seven sisters data centres, severing fiber optic cables... all the stuff where US has built up disproportionate control/share via various post war momentum mechanisms opens up huge global spoils for grab. It might not be PRC doing the grabbing, as PRC will be reconstituting as well, but but sometimes it's important to not just deny, but destroy, make net negative. A builder in a 100k house and a banker in a 200k house burn each others houses down, the banker loses more, while the builder has capacity to rebuild their house faster. Everyone in neighbourhood use to goto parties at bankers house, will they go to the builder's house parties after? Maybe if the builder recovers fast enough, maybe neighbours will do their own thing. Either banker likely to lose most. Which is not to suggest destroying GDP is an "easy" decision, but it is naturally "easy" escalation once the hard decision of going to war is made.

Re: Taiwan is behind schedule in preparations to fend off Chinese invasion

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We wouldn’t get involved if tsmc hadn’t taken over the world.

China wants the ability to choke off all of the (east and south)China Sea, especially the strait of Taiwan. They are becoming more militant and want to make an example to the world of what challenging the “will of China” means. I don’t think they even care that much about TSMC capabilities and knowhow

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