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Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

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Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s an op-ed piece. The job of an opinion writer is not merely to inform you but to change your beliefs.

Op-ed are usually filler nonsense written by journalists to generate ad revenue on a slow news day. That was true in newspaper and is true online too. They are the most skippable "news" articles of all.

> Op-ed are usually filler nonsense written by journalists

1) Citation needed.

2) This one sure wasn't. People who actually bothered to read TFA might have noticed:

> Gary Marcus is a scientist, entrepreneur and bestselling author. He was founder and CEO of machine learning company Geometric Intelligence, which was acquired by Uber, and is the author of six books, including the forthcoming Taming Silicon Valley (MIT Press)

I mean, FFS, he mentioned in the article that he was testifying in Congress with Altman. Do you think they called in journalists from a British newspaper to do that?!?

> They are the most skippable "news" articles of all.

Yeah, except “it's an op-ed” fucking means IT ISN'T a news article in the first place. It's an EDitorial OPinion.

Sheesh.

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#32
Gary Marcus is having his moment in the sun, but the title tells all. “Be afraid” is just stripped down click-bait.

“Isn’t entirely candid” is the smoking gun of this article, which is frankly an absurd standard in today’s political environment, anti-tech media, and just the general hunger for an axe to grind 24/7 online. While I agree with Marcus’ critique on the vibe of the Senate hearing, it is a very strange pillar for proving Sam is “the man you should most fear on earth.”

Arguing that AGI hype/fears were caused by propaganda from Sam/OpenAI is recasting recent history. The entire media & cultural zeitgeist went nuts for a couple quarters when chatGPT went viral. Those fears have been around for a long time. A leap in perceived progress made them the Luddite topic of the day.

It doesn’t seem that hard to read the tea leaves here. If OpenAI could release GPT 5 like they released 3.5, they would. OpenAI’s greatest threat is that a genuine escalation in the publicly known capabilities of AI could exacerbate political push back and kill it. Involving government partners, in or adjacent, slows things down. Big surprise.

We can make regulation without claiming to be AI experts, ex: we can make deep fakes illegal where harm aligns with existing law, which many jurisdictions have already done. When AI regulation gets insane & dangerous is when people think they can invent levers to pull (like policing training data) that will supposedly ensure compliance. We all know what safety really means - a filter layer on interactions with the LLM. There is no fundamental solution to AI safety or regulation that OpenAI is abandoning here.

Marcus ends with his real starting line - he just doesn’t believe in GenAI. Fair enough. But building a massive ad hominem attack with a hand wavy “and some how Sam is still there” ignores the reality that OpenAI’s board now has some of the most trusted & trust-worthy people in tech on it. Sam’s level of accountability is higher, not lower.

The timing of this article is after the significant work OpenAI has done to re-affirm commitment to AI safety. Marcus here, and everywhere, deliberately ignores the mounting evidence that AI’s value is growing.

Which makes this entire campaign feel timed. Marcus’ is calling that the sky is falling right now. why so urgent? The investments have been made, the public markets are off the exuberant irrationalism, the major players are plowing generational levels of engineering into the quest.

Isn’t this what we should be proud of? The willingness to drive innovation forward without knowing for sure how the road will go?

Expecting giant technological leaps to deliver on massive value in a few quarters is for Wall Street. It has no place in science, innovation, or policy.

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#33

OpenAI has first-mover advantage, but hardly a monopoly on the technology or the people behind AI. In fact, I think we’ve already hit peak Altman, and his star will be diminishing from here on.

A lot of people seem to use Gemini where I work so I don’t think you’re right.

It's Copilot here, which is MS+OAI. But it's good that we have a healthy competition.

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#34

The only real technological edge that OpenAI has right now (at least that I know of) is Sora. There are already some very good open source LLMs and the SoTA for image generation has always been Stable Diffusion. I don't think that Sora's some miraculous piece of technology that nobody else can replicate, so I doubt that OpenAI will be the absolute best in AI for long.

FLUX image generator just came out of Black Forest Labs. They are working on video. So, you are right, this will become another battlefield soon.

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#35

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Public keys and web of trust as a solution to content validity seems to be a strangely common misconception of what "authentication" actually means. All you would get at very most is "this was vouched for by a human", not an actual guarantee of humanity. Once the WoT grows past a certain point it will be of dubious value. Furthermore, people would happily "sell their souls" into signing off on any ole bullshit for mo…

> Once the Wheel of Time grows past a certain point... Oh, wait, you weren't talking about Robert Jordan's fantasy series. My bad. Yet another proof I'm old, yet another acronym to re-learn to keep up with the times... Sigh.

Yeah, remember when crypto used to mean cryptography

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#36

These reporters know there are CEO’s that sell things like water, food, and energy to huge portions of the population right? Open AI is a blip.

> These reporters know The article is an opinion piece by an external contributor; the author is not a reporter. From the end of TFA: > Gary Marcus is a scientist, entrepreneur and bestselling author. He was founder and CEO of machine learning company Geometric Intelligence, which was acquired by Uber, and is the author of six books, including the forthcoming Taming Silicon Valley (MIT Press) > there are CEO’s There…

Seriously? You’re going to play this game?

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#37
post #5

LLMs are already a commodity product. They’re going to be a feature of cloud providers not a standalone business.

Not just cloud providers, they’re being baked into enterprise & consumer hardware and software.

I dislike the trend of AI being used as a search engine on the public internet, because of the dubious results. But as internal search engines (e.g. for corporate networks) they’re better than the current offerings (which is admittedly a low bar).

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Public keys and web of trust as a solution to content validity seems to be a strangely common misconception of what "authentication" actually means. All you would get at very most is "this was vouched for by a human", not an actual guarantee of humanity. Once the WoT grows past a certain point it will be of dubious value. Furthermore, people would happily "sell their souls" into signing off on any ole bullshit for mo…

> Once the Wheel of Time grows past a certain point... Oh, wait, you weren't talking about Robert Jordan's fantasy series. My bad. Yet another proof I'm old, yet another acronym to re-learn to keep up with the times... Sigh.

The Eye of The World was published in 1990, and PGP 2.0 was released in 1992, so they're not really that different in age. :p

Re: Sam Altman is becoming one of the most powerful people on Earth. Be afraid

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Once the Wheel of Time grows past a certain point... Oh, wait, you weren't talking about Robert Jordan's fantasy series. My bad. Yet another proof I'm old, yet another acronym to re-learn to keep up with the times... Sigh.

Yeah, remember when crypto used to mean cryptography …

A side-rant on another naming thing: People are already promoting traditional distributed databases as "private blockchains", which is a bit like announcing "Radium Toothpaste now without Isotopes."

They didn't solve the difficult trade-offs of New Thing, they're just relaxing their requirements so that they don't have to use it at all (reasonable) and don't want to admit it (annoying.)

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