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You can get a soft drink in Colombia or Bolivia containing non-decocainized coca leaves as ingredients today. The Stepan company in New Jersey is the only licensed importer of coca leaves in the US. They decocainize the leaves, removing the methyl benzoyl ecgonine (C17H21NO4) and then sell the remaining leaves to the Coca-Cola company for flavor.
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Is the suggestion here that drugs were criminalized in Europe because of diplomatic pressure from the Nixon administration?
It was literal American policy to pressure other countries to do so. I mean an open one - not a secret, but something American politicians were proud about. It was seen as a good thing by them and by the voters.
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It was literal American policy to pressure other countries to do so. I mean an open one - not a secret, but something American politicians were proud about. It was seen as a good thing by them and by the voters.
Why were drugs forbidden in the Soviet Union then?
Nobody claimed the US was the sole cause of the global war on drugs, but it is a major reason given their stance and political influence.
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The article itself cites in the first paragraph this much more detailed analysis of the topic, which may provide the historical context that you felt was lacking. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26391000?mag=who-took-the-cocai...
Thank you for this reference. I had overlooked it. While this article confirms my assertion that whites were the majority of drug users, the drug of choice is stated to have been racially segregated (with whites preferring opiates). Based on this, I'll accept (pending further research) that the southern bans on cocaine were racially motivated. I'd still consider the 1914 federal ban on a wider swath of drugs to be le…
You spent two paragraphs just to end it with an apprehensive concession at best.
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Thank you for this reference. I had overlooked it. While this article confirms my assertion that whites were the majority of drug users, the drug of choice is stated to have been racially segregated (with whites preferring opiates). Based on this, I'll accept (pending further research) that the southern bans on cocaine were racially motivated. I'd still consider the 1914 federal ban on a wider swath of drugs to be le…
You really like going out of your way to pretend things aren’t racially motivated, don’t you? You spent two paragraphs just to end it with an apprehensive concession at best.
The main difference between the 1914 ban and previous actions was the degree of added emphasis put on caricatures of Chinese people.
https://www.economist.com/special-report/2018/08/14/how-did-...
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,962...
https://web.archive.org/web/20080705050104/http://www.hoover...
https://www.nytimes.com/1914/02/08/archives/negro-cocaine-fi...
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It was literal American policy to pressure other countries to do so. I mean an open one - not a secret, but something American politicians were proud about. It was seen as a good thing by them and by the voters.
Why were drugs forbidden in the Soviet Union then?
Drug scene in Soviet Union was massively different then the one in the West. A lot of western drugs were not available and came only with the fall of the Union. The actual issues were alcohol and sniffing. The actual drug scene was something that came with opening of the borders and society needed to adjust.
Soviet Union doing something is not proof that American policy was not what I said. Soviet Union did stuff for own reasons. They did not forbid just drugs either, they forbid half the things existing outside of their borders.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca#Commercial_and_industrial... Before the criminalization of cocaine, however, the extract was not decocainized So they are right that cocaine was not intentionally added.
It's correct to say the processed powdery form of cocaine was never added. But actually cocaine was intentionally added, as a byproduct of adding Coca. More complete excerpt: > Before the criminalization of cocaine, however, the extract was not decocainized, and hence Coca-Cola's original formula did indeed include cocaine. You can still get a buzz off chewing raw coca leaf, but it's not in the same ballpark as doing…
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Germany recently moved a big step toward legalizing pot. Psylocibin and MDMA are getting established (again after many decades) in psychotherapy in the US. In general consumption of many hard drugs are tolerated legally and in practice in lot of places around the world. ... That said heroin, homelessness, mental illnesses and addiction are simply things with a "nuisance profile" and has a super high correlation to cr…
>why it got the prohibition treatment which ALWAYS fails. it leads to fentanyl instead of regulated pure heroin which we tax. It leads to the money that could go to put these people in addict centers in to drug lords' pockets. people are going to use it anyway. prohibition does nothing but fill our jails with minorities. Tax it, limit daily use, use the billions flooding to violent cartels to fund social solutions to…
The billions required to build housing-first luxury rehabs with hookers and hypnotherapists for everyone are there ... spent on the War on X (pun maybe intended?) and shipped to warehouses where cartel bosses keep their proceeds.
The whole thing is a clusterfuck of neglect, underfunding, and ... in general short-term thinking or more precisely the relatable but oh-so-wrong "hot heads in the soothing sand" policy.
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[In Seattle] People walking by homeless camps have seen bike "chop shops" there, but the police won't do anything. In the police's defense, on the rare occasions they do arrest homeless people for theft, the county attorney will just drop the charges.
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Oakland PD is the D league of police in the Bay Area. It doesn't have adequate funding and the population is the most hostile. So most A tier cops avoid it, while OPD gets rookies and the leftovers. Then there's the fact that they have half the police they should that similar size+crime cities do. Guess how many police are patrolling at one time among 430k people in the crime that Oakland gets? 200? 100? It's 30! 30 officers to respond to whatever mayhem is going on. One officer busy filing paperwork and driving 2 hours to Dublin jail for every 40,000 people...
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https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/details-that-you-should-inc...
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That begs the question what do they do with the methyl benzoyl ecgonine. I suppose it ends up in lidocaine and other variants.
Cocaine is also a schedule 2 substance, meaning it is actually approved and sold for medical use. Not a lot, mind you, and mostly only in hospital settings for local anaesthesia purposes, but it was absolutely found in the catalogs we used to use for doing the ordering when I worked as a pharmacy technician.