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Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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You mean exactly like how it's going to be on iOS when 6 lands? Developers are smart. They'll engineer their apps to live if permission is revoked.

there are a lot more permissions in Android than there are in iOS http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.perm...

They could be bundled and not all permissions have to be interactively granted, just the ones that could do the most harm.

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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> the idea was that you wouldn't install apps on your phone that you didn't trust We've known this doesn't work out on PCs for years; why would phones be any different?

This phone has a much more restricted installation experience. There is only one installer, and Apple knows who to blame if any of the software it installs turns out to be malware. I think the idea was that that tractability would deter people from trying to put malware on the App Store. And that has worked reasonably well. Yes, there were several cases of apps that did not inform users that they uploaded data to imp…

Also the personal information is more limited. At first the only "personal" information was my name and the name and phone numbers of my friends. This information is available (in theory) in a phone book.

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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Not really. There are virtually no permissions that can be approved on a case by case basis in Android. Google claims that interactively approving permissions will make life "too complex" for developers. I hope this inspires them to be a little more open minded about it. There are so many useful but optional features of apps that need intrusive permissions (eg: read your contacts) - but apps need to request blanket p…

You can (and should) install LBE privacy guard. If you don't want an app to access, say, your contacts list, it gets an empty contacts list.

Yay, I enjoy being a systems integrator for my mobile phone.

Not.

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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You can (and should) install LBE privacy guard. If you don't want an app to access, say, your contacts list, it gets an empty contacts list.

Yay, I enjoy being a systems integrator for my mobile phone. Not.

How are you being a systems integrator? Or do you mean you need an app that reads your mind as to what permissions to grant?

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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Yay, I enjoy being a systems integrator for my mobile phone. Not.

How are you being a systems integrator? Or do you mean you need an app that reads your mind as to what permissions to grant?

If I have to download and configure a custom application into my toaster in order to choose whether I permit raisin bread, I'm being a toaster systems integrator.

"This isn't a problem, install this third party app to keep your permissions secure! But sorry, it could break at any time because Google don't provide support for it."

This is a desktop computer mentality. Sorry dude, I'm a programmer and a sysadmin, but my phone is a #*$@ing APPLIANCE! I want it to make and receive calls, and maybe play a few rounds of Angry Birds without wondering if Rovio is tweeting my location behind my back.

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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How are you being a systems integrator? Or do you mean you need an app that reads your mind as to what permissions to grant?

If I have to download and configure a custom application into my toaster in order to choose whether I permit raisin bread, I'm being a toaster systems integrator. "This isn't a problem, install this third party app to keep your permissions secure! But sorry, it could break at any time because Google don't provide support for it." This is a desktop computer mentality. Sorry dude, I'm a programmer and a sysadmin, but m…

So you become a systems integrator by downloading apps to your phone? Then I'm afraid you already are one, sadly.

Who do these phone companies think they are, expecting people to actually program numbers in a device just to call someone? Not everyone is a programmer!

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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If I have to download and configure a custom application into my toaster in order to choose whether I permit raisin bread, I'm being a toaster systems integrator. "This isn't a problem, install this third party app to keep your permissions secure! But sorry, it could break at any time because Google don't provide support for it." This is a desktop computer mentality. Sorry dude, I'm a programmer and a sysadmin, but m…

So you become a systems integrator by downloading apps to your phone? Then I'm afraid you already are one, sadly. Who do these phone companies think they are, expecting people to actually program numbers in a device just to call someone? Not everyone is a programmer!

You're being intentionally dense or missing the point.

Re: Apple now requires user permission in iOS 6 before apps can access private data

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So you become a systems integrator by downloading apps to your phone? Then I'm afraid you already are one, sadly. Who do these phone companies think they are, expecting people to actually program numbers in a device just to call someone? Not everyone is a programmer!

You're being intentionally dense or missing the point.

What is the point?

EDIT: You edited your comment above, but it still makes no sense to me. Your phone can't know if you want an app to access your personal info or not, you have to tell it. The only difference between what you want and what I propose is that you have to spend an extra two seconds installing an app. This doesn't sound so onerous, and doesn't mean you have to be an expert.

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