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Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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For reference "Hanon" is a classic book of piano exercises that improve the velocity of the pianist. It is like 150 years old but still heavily used everyday by a lot of professional pianists: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virtuoso_Pianist_in_60_E...

It is also widely criticized by professional piano teachers (see the link above), and for good reasons.

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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For reference "Hanon" is a classic book of piano exercises that improve the velocity of the pianist. It is like 150 years old but still heavily used everyday by a lot of professional pianists: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virtuoso_Pianist_in_60_E...

It is also widely criticized by professional piano teachers (see the link above), and for good reasons.

That's not strong opposition there. One basically says it's boring, and the other says that only a certain technique can ever be good, and then it isn't even cited.

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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Fourier is harder than MIDI, more technical to achieve, and also less reliable in noisy environments. Also from a HN MVP point of view this is about picking shortest path and ship something (especially important since there are other things to implement as well), and Fourier can be added later. But yeah philosophically I understand your frustration, as someone who has implemented both :-)

Hanon Pro looks already very polished and with many bells and whistles. I think my question came around to snarky and got thus flagged but really is just a curious question why this isn't the core feature of such an app to listen to your playing.

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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Sounds like an excellent business opportunity for a hacker with your skills.

If you look at the remaining feature set you see that there is a ton of other features required to make a great app. We all have #DayJob to work on, right...

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is also widely criticized by professional piano teachers (see the link above), and for good reasons.

That's not strong opposition there. One basically says it's boring, and the other says that only a certain technique can ever be good, and then it isn't even cited.

Professional pianist here. They are boring but that’s hardly the biggest issue with Hanon, unfortunately. The biggest problem is the instructions that the composer leaves for the student, which includes the insistence that the student lift the finger high off the keyboard with each note.

I can think of practically nothing more injurious to good technique and nothing more likely to induce tension than this.

Hanon could have some value if teachers and students would employ the concept of weight transfer from finger to finger with constant contact with the keyboard. But his idea of finger calisthenics is a relic of the 19th c.

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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It would be awesome if the file format was open and anyone could add their own scores to the app...

Try Soundslice, which lets you import any sheet music. It has a PDF/photo-scanning feature plus an entire sheet music editor built-in. https://www.soundslice.com/ I’ve been working on it full-time for nearly 12 years now. It doesn’t do the “listen to your performance” thing — maybe someday. But the other bits, such as practice tracking and interactive sheet music features, are all there.

While trying to learn Playing God a couple of weeks ago, I had a desire to loop certain parts and play them with reduced tempo.

I thought I'll have to dev something myself.

But I googled and discovered SoundSlice.

My practice technique has changed, I'm learning superfast thanks to SoundSlice. I play it on a tablet I've got a tripod in my playing area.

It's awesome to see the creator here, I didn't know that it's been going on since 12 years.

And I learnt that you're the co-creator of Django as well, it's cool to have the product from an indie dev vs an (enshittification loving) corp.

Just wanted to say thanks for your great work, your app has really made it much easier for me to learn faster tracks!

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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iOS once touted itself as being honest. Now it doesn't show the price until you install the app?

That's a little unwarranted; the App Store has always just said "Install" for free apps since its launch. The price otherwise shows up instead of the "Install" caption.

Re: Show HN: Hanon Pro – piano technique and exercises for the digital age

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On this note, does anyone know some books in references to applied music theory? I'm a pretty advanced piano player, but a lot of more basic piano players can make up chords to play with with simple tunes that sound pretty good, most of those people seem to know a certain of rules that I don't know. And googling books about piano music on google books or the likes has not yielded any useful results.

If you want to go in the jazz direction, the Jazz Piano Book by Mark Levine [1] is great! It has everything a jazz player needs to know, from II - V - I voicings to scales, upper structures, etc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jazz_Piano_Book

Oscar Peterson has a nice series of étude books, too – it's not an exhaustive course, but he was a great pedagogue and expositor, and he really did care about the classical training he got as a wee one.
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