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Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by SushiHippie »

aetherspawn wrote: post #199

I'd like to know if they ever nearly died (or became very uncomfortable) from running out of food, broken boat, or otherwise. Their boat is very small and has only one engine, and it looks like they will sail thousands of kms in one leg on occasion. I am soft. If I must do this, and I would kick and scream, I would sell my house and buy a yacht with megalitres capacity of water, batteries, refrigerators, and starlink…

> from running out of food

According to their page they can store up to 4 months of provisions

> Fully-geared, stocked with provisions for 4 months (food & water) Pino weighs 7484,274 kg (16,500 lbs)【7 484 kg】, or 8.25 tons.

https://100r.co/site/pino.html

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by Bluestein »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #432
louwrentius wrote: post #353

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Although I feel this is yet another disingenuous question, mostly referencing my own reference, this post is about the people behind Hundred Rabbits, what they make and how they live. This is noteworthy because it’s 180 degrees opposite from how most HN people live and what they do. I feel we should change society somewhat

Only partly disingenuous, since I think this subject is a bit more complicated than just going off grid. So yes, the subject is this rabbits group, but I think the overall question about how individuals can live without society is not obvious. These groups couldn't do what they do without society producing these goods. Even if they are living minimally, they can never fully detach.

It takes industry of a certain complexity to fab semiconductors, and micro electronics. Once the replacement stock is depleted - there goes computing ...

... could a bunch of self organized comunes such as these ever replicate such industry?

It is peculiar no self-standing group such as this has - AFAIK - attempted such a thing. Why don't they start there?

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Post by SushiHippie »

ghostwords wrote: post #440
SushiHippie wrote: post #439

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FYI I just installed Privacy Badger to test this out, but this feature does not seem to work on Firefox for Android (at least on this page)

You have to move the toggle for youtube.com to red first. Main Menu > Extensions > Extensions Manager > Privacy Badger > Settings > Tracking Domains > search for youtube.com > tap to update the toggle for youtube.com to red

Ooh I should have looked at your link before commenting, thanks!

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by fao_ »

packetlost wrote: post #214
fao_ wrote: post #197

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> , so saying it's retroactive justification isn't really true and minimizes the real problems they face. I wouldn't call any of the listed problems "real problems" in the context of my long winded disability and homelessness lmao. I used to be in their community, the mods, and indirectly, them, were abusive as hell. Their community is, last I heard, hemorrhaging queer folk (or maybe it's bled dry and queer folk just…

Do you have anything I can review to see for myself? This is the first I've heard of any of this.

I have logs of some interactions stored somewhere, but they're very patchy and stored in plain text. They also contain personal interactions between server members, so I would not feel comfortable releasing them (I also lack any way to get in touch to obtain consent for releasing the logs!)

I do not have logs of direct messages because it escaped my intention -- while I planned to get them, that never happened. At the time, I was lied to and told I would be able to return, and then 3 months later I was informed I was not going to be able to return to the space. They also did not inform anyone that I was leaving, either. I had long friendships with many in that slack instance, and not only would they not know where to find me, but none of them were informed that I had even left -- as far as any of them know, I ghosted them. There was absolutely zero transparency of moderation both at the time, and as far as I am aware, to this day.

Something I forgot to mention in the above is that at the time they had a code of conduct, and this code of conduct listed a two strike system, along with a resolution system. Neither of these were followed in any capacity (likely because they didn't exist), and there was never any communication by the moderators that I had had strikes raised against me.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by fao_ »

rrix2 wrote: post #207
fao_ wrote: post #197

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> , so saying it's retroactive justification isn't really true and minimizes the real problems they face. I wouldn't call any of the listed problems "real problems" in the context of my long winded disability and homelessness lmao. I used to be in their community, the mods, and indirectly, them, were abusive as hell. Their community is, last I heard, hemorrhaging queer folk (or maybe it's bled dry and queer folk just…

Wow, you're the first person I've seen speak up about having similar experiences with them as me, thank you. I was a merveilles member some years back until I had some really rude/abusive interactions in IRC from Devine and a prominent moderator. I really would love to play with uxn and varvara but gosh I simply refuse to be around people like that.

Honestly, adding your voice here is incredibly kind; and likewise, I'm so grateful to hear of another with this sort of experience.

Their design sensibilities are very good, and I feel exactly the same -- it just... doesn't sit right, feels bitter, somehow, to create things with their tools, in the full context of everything.

I've often mulled over starting up a little group sharing some of the same sensibilities but without the toxicity, to be honest.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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BizarroLand wrote: post #418
shermantanktop wrote: post #394

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Yes, then in 1863 we had a brief window of hope as Frau Blücher, a charismatic blind preacher, wrote her famous “Two Theses” on a bagel bag: “1. I cannot taste the difference; 2. It all looks the same in your stomach.” This ecumenical message sadly did not endure and she too was thrown out of a first floor window.

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Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by vinnyvichy »

gvicino wrote: post #425
vinnyvichy wrote: post #367

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Thank you for your curiosity! Decentralization is a very long term effort -- Grothendieck said it would take generations, we can't expect immediate results. So while 100R certainly can't survive without relying on industry, it does do research into technologies that may be easier to "deindustrialize". See the "off-grid" and "sustainability" pages on their site. Finer point: even before the industrial revolution, huma…

I understand your point of view, but I'm not sure we're that far ahead in progress. It seems very solar punk science fiction if we're talking about the near future. If we're talking about a more distant future, then I can still hope for it.

I wouldn't say the horizon is 100 years, but 250 years. Mainly to re-architect finance to support relevant research. You know how psychological obstacles are the hardest!

The first milestone is to minimize the use of metals in our society, use as dopants or catalysts only. Second milestone is alumina. (Money OTOH will probably always be necessary!) What I wanted to explain above is that for computing, arguably our most advanced tech, metals are not strictly needed.

You would also probably be surprised at the true state of our solarpunk tech. There are water antennas, solar-pumped lasers.. that's almost 1950 already.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by theendisney4 »

sulandor wrote: post #265
theendisney4 wrote: post #224

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I find it hilarious how despite endless bad press the giant data pump that is bittorrent just keeps on grinding without anyone behind the wheel, no updates, no bug fixes, and no interruption. People can scream, ball their fists and stomp their foot on the ground but daddy's money cant shut it down. We should all feel very embarresed such a thing is possible. You can apparently write software and/or create protocols t…

maybe because bittorrent is genuinely useful and far from abandoned as most shops that regularly distribute large blobs use it. the political kerfuffle because drm/dmca really has nothing to do with it but i can't shake the feeling that you are involved at this level. god bless

It has something to do with it. The internet enables control over what you talk about and share even with those close to you. We seem to like controlling others where we can. It doesnt seem al that bad but our benevolent corporate overlord dont represent the true madness of our kind. They havent categorized an untermensh nor refer to people as animals, we get to complaint about and mock our leaders. We have an elaborate system of law. One day people will no doubt wake up and it is all gone or it will gradually errode away.

Laws that require changing our entire civilisation and culture are not your friend. You dont want to search everones house to check if they own a radio or tv. If that happens depends on who is asking. It isnt a static group. It might begin with heroic crime fighters but we can expand or replace the effort with new business logic. First we need to prevent you from reading a harry potter registered in someone elses name, then we need to be able to take your music purchases away from you until eventually we need to lock you up for subscribing to the wrong youtube channel 30 years ago.

It isnt actually as absurd as not having video on websites in an afordable way.

All those people working at youtube and all of those giant servers. It takes a truly monumental effort to use the wrong technology.

I have to watch ads to pay for it? Advertisers have to influence content to pay for it? Our best men to keep the eyeballs on ads to pay for it?

I have over a thousand yt subs to deleted channels for a laundry list of resons. There use to be threaded discussions and video replies. It all had to go to pay for it?

All the horrors of central planning without the nice things the communists prommised us?

All that to make sure some people get paid for things other people did 70 years ago?

If that is what it costs they should not be paid. I hope little jimmy downloads all of their movies, every tv show, all the video games, all of their music, all of their books and all of their published papers.

They wanted little jimmy to pay for singing happy birthday on video. Imagine the money they lost that day. All of those birthdays!

We could have had birthday inspection squad teams. Fight the crime at the source.

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Post by duskwuff »

cortesoft wrote: post #165
throwup238 wrote: post #152

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Turn your videos into HLS playlists (.m3u8) or mp4 and host the individual video files behind Cloudflare. Serve them on the frontend using JW Player or some other JS video player and from the backend using a $5 DigitalOcean droplet that serves the files from block storage. You’ll have to learn some ffmpeg incantations but the bandwidth will be free and your total costs will be the tiny VM and block storage. Might eve…

Doesn't cloudflare TOS forbid video content?

It's not quite that clearcut:

> Unless you are an Enterprise customer, Cloudflare offers specific Paid Services (e.g., the Developer Platform, Images, and Stream) that you must use in order to serve video and other large files via the CDN. Cloudflare reserves the right to disable or limit your access to or use of the CDN, or to limit your End Users’ access to certain of your resources through the CDN, if you use or are suspected of using the CDN without such Paid Services to serve video or a disproportionate percentage of pictures, audio files, or other large files.

- https://www.cloudflare.com/service-specific-terms-applicatio...

Reading between the lines a bit: they really only care if you're using Cloudflare to front a site whose primary purpose is to deliver video content, and lots of it (like, say, if you're running a tube site or a livestreaming site). They don't care about web sites which happen to incidentally include a small amount of video content.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by gvicino »

vinnyvichy wrote: post #447
gvicino wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand your point of view, but I'm not sure we're that far ahead in progress. It seems very solar punk science fiction if we're talking about the near future. If we're talking about a more distant future, then I can still hope for it.

I wouldn't say the horizon is 100 years, but 250 years. Mainly to re-architect finance to support relevant research. You know how psychological obstacles are the hardest! The first milestone is to minimize the use of metals in our society, use as dopants or catalysts only. Second milestone is alumina. (Money OTOH will probably always be necessary!) What I wanted to explain above is that for computing, arguably our mo…

Thank you. It seems like you have a clear path for this transition. Do you have any reading suggestions that explain this transition?
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