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Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by pmarreck »

kragen wrote: post #88
pmarreck wrote: post #82

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that URL leads directly to what looks like the contents of a .git directory (so, all the metainformation but no project directory listing) I'm curious because I buy this comment more than their mission statement, although I absolutely agree with their stance on the "longevity/maintainability problem" in software and hardware. but as soon as I saw the ranting about colonialism I was like "oh... basically, anarchist an…

cf. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41133098 collapseos isn't a 100r thing, and i haven't seen anything from virgil that sounds like an anarchist anti-capitalist. i have a lot of sympathies for the anarchist anti-capitalist point of view although personally i've suffered a lot more harm from anti-capitalism than from capitalism

I have sympathies for it too. But I am also not at all surprised by your "harmed more by anti-caps than caps" statement.

The funny thing about having a kid (he's 3) is that you are forced to re-evaluate all your values and preconceived notions to see what it is you really want to transmit to your kid.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by lancesells »

miffi wrote: post #69
worldsayshi wrote: post #44

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What do you mean by permatech community? When i googled it I didn't find anything that fits the context.

The search term is "permacomputing" afaik. Here's 100r's (specifically xxiivv's) page on the topic https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/permacomputing.html The first paragraph gives a good overview of the idea: > Permacomputing encourages the maximization of hardware lifespan, minimization of energy usage and focuses on the use of already available computational resources. It values maintenance and refactoring of systems to…

So it's like permaculture but for software.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by Bluestein »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #74
jldugger wrote: post #9

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It keeps bouncing between too real and too absurd. Absurd: Not enough power on our sailboat to run Ableton and Photoshop. Real: So we replaced it with open source technology. Absurd: That technology was based on Electron. Real: Electron was too bloated. Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. Real: And now you can run our software anywhere you can emulate an NES

I think the general thesis statement is, "there are very few things we do today that couldn't have been done on older hardware".

Which, holds (?)

PS. Except for AI, perhaps ...

... I was going to add certain forms of cryptography to that, but then realized that we've always have had some sort of cryptography that was "hardware-appropriate" (ie. sufficiently hard to break, to be useful) for the age. So older hardware was just fine ...

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by djur »

kragen wrote: post #85
copx wrote: post #83

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I can't see the file there.

it's a git repo, you have to clone it i've added a header to that effect since it seems to have been confusing people

There's something ironic about condemning someone for "ascetic renunciation of pleasures such as guis" and publishing it as a Markdown file available only by cloning a git repo.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by kragen »

pmarreck wrote: post #91
kragen wrote: post #88

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cf. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41133098 collapseos isn't a 100r thing, and i haven't seen anything from virgil that sounds like an anarchist anti-capitalist. i have a lot of sympathies for the anarchist anti-capitalist point of view although personally i've suffered a lot more harm from anti-capitalism than from capitalism

I have sympathies for it too. But I am also not at all surprised by your "harmed more by anti-caps than caps" statement. The funny thing about having a kid (he's 3) is that you are forced to re-evaluate all your values and preconceived notions to see what it is you really want to transmit to your kid.

well, i live in argentina, see, so i've had the opportunity to live under an anti-capitalist government. if you've only lived in a society where capitalists have all the power then it would be unsurprising if the powerless anti-capitalists haven't harmed you

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by kragen »

djur wrote: post #94
kragen wrote: post #85

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it's a git repo, you have to clone it i've added a header to that effect since it seems to have been confusing people

There's something ironic about condemning someone for "ascetic renunciation of pleasures such as guis" and publishing it as a Markdown file available only by cloning a git repo.

the markdown file does say that this point of view resonates with me ;)

there are other advantages as well. if someone clones the git repo, they'll still be able to read it after i die and my site goes down; and there's no incentive for anyone to pressure me to rewrite history by deleting things from it, which is a thing that has happened to me in the past, since i can't delete them from remote clones

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by kragen »

mburns wrote: post #81
kragen wrote: post #67

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the z80 more generally, collapseos is cosplay, not engineering in more detail, collapseos is not a pragmatic engineering effort to foster resiliency, but an essentially religious effort to atone for the sins of the worldly through ascetic renunciation of pleasures such as guis, returning to an imagined arcadian past of austere virtue see against-collapseos.md in http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/pavnotes2.git for the f…

DuskOS != CollapseOS (same author, the latter inspired the former). DuskOS doesn’t run on z80. It’s i386 or ARM. Whether that makes it a serious effort or not is still up for debate.

apologies! i haven't investigated duskos in any detail and so whatever opinions i may have about it are not worth considering

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by Bluestein »

bee_rider wrote: post #30
Bluestein wrote: post #13

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Exactly my feeling.- PS. Which leads me - tangentially - to think that (maybe) the solution to (at least) some of our problems might someday be found in a cult :) Who knows ... > Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. This was grand. The NES as a most effective "baseline" platform. Can totally see humanity sending out an NES emulator on Voyager VI as a last gasp.-

This is now my headcanon for why the UI of super advanced computers in 80’s sci-fi movies looks the way it does.

Good call :)

"8 bit 'looks' and hardware constitutes - and 'looks like' - some optimum as far as computing is concerned"

... so sufficiently advanced systems will look like it to interface with us as a sort of lingua franca.-

AGIs. Alien probes. The works. They will all look to us like a C64 or NES would :)

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by kragen »

pmarreck wrote: post #87
senorrib wrote: post #73

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Windows has become a garbage pile of spyware lately, but even Linux can't really compare to the insane level of backwards compatibility Windows offers.

NixOS can. Because literally every piece of software in the Nix repo includes all dependencies (including things like build dependencies, not just runtime dependencies) that existed at the time it was built, all the way down to the metal basically

well, all the way down to the kernel, not the metal

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by yllautcaj »

I think sailing and free software have in common the type of freedom that is not unlimited, necessarily constrained by the reality of sharing a planet with billions of other primates. There are a lot of rules one must follow to share the pacific ocean (especially the parts close to land) with other people, but that doesn't make travel under wind power any less captivating.

Also, the Yamaha 33 is an impressively tiny and light boat for the sailing they're doing, let alone living and working on.

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