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Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by Avshalom »

jldugger wrote: post #9
mikejulietbravo wrote: post #8

The start of this reads like the beginning of a cult manifesto, but then transitions to a very logical solution for an important problem. Baffling. I'm in

It keeps bouncing between too real and too absurd. Absurd: Not enough power on our sailboat to run Ableton and Photoshop. Real: So we replaced it with open source technology. Absurd: That technology was based on Electron. Real: Electron was too bloated. Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. Real: And now you can run our software anywhere you can emulate an NES

everything about it reinforces the feeling that it's all just retroactive justification for finding a toy they made more fun than expected

ETA: to be clear there's nothing wrong with making a toy and then turning that toy into it's own all-consuming hobby (TTRPGs for example) and one of the best parts of programming is how easy it is to do just that. It's just kind of annoying watching people wax rhapsodic about nonsense instead of copping to "yeah we're having a lot of fun, i feel like a kid again"

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by kragen »

Bluestein wrote: post #13
jldugger wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It keeps bouncing between too real and too absurd. Absurd: Not enough power on our sailboat to run Ableton and Photoshop. Real: So we replaced it with open source technology. Absurd: That technology was based on Electron. Real: Electron was too bloated. Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. Real: And now you can run our software anywhere you can emulate an NES

Exactly my feeling.- PS. Which leads me - tangentially - to think that (maybe) the solution to (at least) some of our problems might someday be found in a cult :) Who knows ... > Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. This was grand. The NES as a most effective "baseline" platform. Can totally see humanity sending out an NES emulator on Voyager VI as a last gasp.-

cults are generally the only way to solve deep-rooted problems. otherwise people's habits are too strong and they keep reproducing the existing traditions that create the problems through unexamined avenues

technically varvara isn't actually the nes

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by subpub47 »

Avshalom wrote: post #61
jldugger wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It keeps bouncing between too real and too absurd. Absurd: Not enough power on our sailboat to run Ableton and Photoshop. Real: So we replaced it with open source technology. Absurd: That technology was based on Electron. Real: Electron was too bloated. Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. Real: And now you can run our software anywhere you can emulate an NES

everything about it reinforces the feeling that it's all just retroactive justification for finding a toy they made more fun than expected ETA: to be clear there's nothing wrong with making a toy and then turning that toy into it's own all-consuming hobby (TTRPGs for example) and one of the best parts of programming is how easy it is to do just that. It's just kind of annoying watching people wax rhapsodic about nons…

Funny, I was about to say the same thing about most "modern" tech.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by kragen »

Bluestein wrote: post #6
mikae1 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://git.sr.ht/~vdupras/duskos > Dusk OS is a 32-bit Forth and big brother to Collapse OS. Its primary purpose is to be maximally useful during the first stage of civilizational collapse, that is, when we can't produce modern computers anymore but that there's still many modern computers around.

> 32-bit Forth OS mixed with C I mean, what's not to love here? :)

the z80

more generally, collapseos is cosplay, not engineering

in more detail, collapseos is not a pragmatic engineering effort to foster resiliency, but an essentially religious effort to atone for the sins of the worldly through ascetic renunciation of pleasures such as guis, returning to an imagined arcadian past of austere virtue

see against-collapseos.md in http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/pavnotes2.git for the full critique

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by [deleted] »

BalinKing wrote: post #33
Bluestein wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my feeling.- PS. Which leads me - tangentially - to think that (maybe) the solution to (at least) some of our problems might someday be found in a cult :) Who knows ... > Absurd: So we ported everything over to the NES. This was grand. The NES as a most effective "baseline" platform. Can totally see humanity sending out an NES emulator on Voyager VI as a last gasp.-

I apologize for an off-topic question, but I'm curious why you choose to write "." as ".-". Is it an internet convention I'm unaware of, or maybe punctuation from a language other than English?

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Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by miffi »

worldsayshi wrote: post #44
hosh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked into the permatech community in general?

What do you mean by permatech community? When i googled it I didn't find anything that fits the context.

The search term is "permacomputing" afaik.

Here's 100r's (specifically xxiivv's) page on the topic https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/permacomputing.html

The first paragraph gives a good overview of the idea:

> Permacomputing encourages the maximization of hardware lifespan, minimization of energy usage and focuses on the use of already available computational resources. It values maintenance and refactoring of systems to keep them efficient, instead of planned obsolescence, permacomputing practices planned longevity. It is about using computation only when it has a strengthening effect on ecosystems.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by nfrmatk »

venantius wrote: post #31

Two people and a pet isn’t really a “collective”

That's the most constructive takeaway you have when looking at all their work? That's an unnecessarily limited view and doesn't add to the conversation.

From my vantage point their work fits the definition nicely.

"A collective body" [1] ... "Collectivized or characterized by collectivism" [1] ... "A political or economic theory advocating collective control especially over production and distribution" [2]

[1]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collective [2]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collectivism

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