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Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by Izmaki »

I really hate when "USB Passthrough" is used in situations when, at best, a "USB over ethernet proxy" is what is happening. That's not passthrough... It introduces a whole range of disadvantages that regular passthrough does not (and advanced passthrough might not) have.

Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by JayDustheadz »

dyllon wrote: post #24
JayDustheadz wrote: post #22

Can this be launched on an M1 Mac? I'm trying to find a way to run a Big Sur VM on my M1 Mac on Monterey/Ventura.

Couldn’t you use UTM to run a macOS VM?

Sadly it doesn't look like it: https://mac.getutm.app/ "Note that macOS VM support is limited to ARM based Macs running macOS Monterey or higher."

Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by znpy »

nine_k wrote: post #13

So, to clarify things: it's QEMU running in a container, and macOS running under QEMU inside it. This is really nice WRT the ease of installation: no manual setup steps and all. This likely expressly violates the [macOS EULA], which says: «you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time» — because the point…

> you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time»

In that case... If I run Asahi Linux on my apple-silicon macbook pro as main operating system and then run macOS in a container I should be fine.

Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by prmoustache »

znpy wrote: post #26
nine_k wrote: post #13

So, to clarify things: it's QEMU running in a container, and macOS running under QEMU inside it. This is really nice WRT the ease of installation: no manual setup steps and all. This likely expressly violates the [macOS EULA], which says: «you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time» — because the point…

> you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time» In that case... If I run Asahi Linux on my apple-silicon macbook pro as main operating system and then run macOS in a container I should be fine.

See the rest of the license, the host must be "already running the MacOS operating system" which I understand as host OS, not as capable of still running it because the sshd hasn't been wiped of a MacOS install.

Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by evnix »

KronisLV wrote: post #14
keyle wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run full apple hardware and < 2 years old and the damn thing is still pretty slow.

I have an M1 MacBook Air and the iPhone 2022 SE, so far the performance of both is pretty good! However, the prices are definitely outside my regular budget (needed it for an iOS app project cause of walled garden ecosystem) and I only got the 8 GB MacBook which in hindsight very much feels like a mistake, even with the exorbitant pricing for the 16 GB model. For the price of the 8 GB model I could have gotten a nice…

Next time, just get a mac mini and plug in an external ssd

Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by exe34 »

nine_k wrote: post #17
jbverschoor wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software, or any prior macOS or OS X operating system software or subsequent release of the Apple Software, within virtual operating system environments on each Apple-branded computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing during software development; (…

Indeed. That would cover a conventionally installed VM, like VirtualBox. But this is packaged as a Docker image, and Docker is Linux-specific. Linux is not officially supported by Apple on their hardware, and is certainly not prevalent on it. I doubt that the intended target audience of this project is limited to Asahi Linux.

I run Linux on a Mac book air, so this would allow me to run macos in a controlled environment if I could think of a good reason to do so.

Re: macOS in QEMU in Docker

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Post by m463 »

nine_k wrote: post #13

So, to clarify things: it's QEMU running in a container, and macOS running under QEMU inside it. This is really nice WRT the ease of installation: no manual setup steps and all. This likely expressly violates the [macOS EULA], which says: «you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time» — because the point…

You can run linux on a mac. In fact older intel used macs are inexpensive and run pretty well with little noise.

ubuntu installs and runs easily. Other versions of linux - it depends.

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