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Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom.

Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot.

Prove me wrong.

Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

#3

Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

So someone else needs to prove a negative, that there exists no possible technology that will "disrupt" cryocoolers by bringing them to an unspecified price/performance point by an unspecified time in the future to service an unspecified computing use-case?

That seems more than a little unfair. :p

Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

Also notable because heat rejection on that scale till you enter the superconducting regime is a reinforcing loop: the device no longer makes heat, you just need to keep the environmental heat out.

Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

Is the cost of cryocoolong capex or Opex dominated?

Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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post #3

Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

So someone else needs to prove a negative, that there exists no possible technology that will "disrupt" cryocoolers by bringing them to an unspecified price/performance point by an unspecified time in the future to service an unspecified computing use-case? That seems more than a little unfair. :p

> someone else needs to prove a negative, that there exists no possible technology that will "disrupt" cryocoolers

Look at the Wikipedia references for crycoolers [1]. Note the dates and volume. Now look at room-tempuerature superconductors [2].

1990 vs 2023. 5 vs 57. OP is arguing that a greater fraction of high-temperature superconducting research dollars might find purchase in improving the cryocooler than we presently spend.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryocooler#References

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconducto...

Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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post #5

Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

Is the cost of cryocoolong capex or Opex dominated?

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Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

Would running a cryocooler spend more energy than a superconducting CPU / GPU would save?

Re: Superconducting Microprocessors? Turns Out They're Ultra-Efficient (2021)

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post #8

Another notch on the belt for a cryocooler boom. Oh “superconducting is hard”, “if only we had high temperature superconductors”. All valid, but if we work with what we got and disrupt cyrocoolers make them a commodity like magnetrons all those laments become moot. Prove me wrong.

Would running a cryocooler spend more energy than a superconducting CPU / GPU would save?

>The 2.5 GHz prototype uses 80 times less energy than its semiconductor counterpart, even accounting for cooling

It's in the header of the article.

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