Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#1

Post by ksec » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:31 PM UTC

Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You
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Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#2

Post by tjoff » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:35 PM UTC

Maybe be the change you want to see in the world and don't use/support the most closed ecosystem?

The alternatives are not prefect, nothing is. But they are all more open and that is something we can build upon.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#3

Post by troyharvey » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:41 PM UTC

I started a thread of specific complaints on Twitter and tagged @jensimmons. Every issue was quietly resolved a few releases later.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#4

Post by secstate » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:46 PM UTC

tjoff wrote: post #2

Maybe be the change you want to see in the world and don't use/support the most closed ecosystem? The alternatives are not prefect, nothing is. But they are all more open and that is something we can build upon.

So true. Fun to point out all the flaws in the other major tech companies, but the locked nature of Apple, while seemingly providing opportunities for "security", also makes you feel like cattle in a feed lot when you try do something they don't want you to do.

Safari faults aside, I've never felt more constrained by the whims of a corporation than when I try to reset the password on my Apple ID. Even remembering the process makes me a little feel a little claustrophobic.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#5

Post by rvnx » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:47 PM UTC

More important: Stop losing authenticated sessions. Stop randomly corrupting the whole past cookie-jar for no reasons. Safari, just stop! This is crazy annoying.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#6

Post by olliej » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:50 PM UTC

troyharvey wrote: post #3

I started a thread of specific complaints on Twitter and tagged @jensimmons. Every issue was quietly resolved a few releases later.

… so you reported bugs and they were fixed?

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#7

Post by judiisis » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:50 PM UTC

Also not supporting PWAs and in general being behind and ocking on next gen web features

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#8

Post by dijit » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:51 PM UTC

So, performance hasn't kept up and you don’t like the extension ecosystem?

Performance I understand, its hard to compete with v8 and JS is pumped down our pipes in ever-growing amounts.

Extensions are poor, truly, with this I agree. But extensions are also a huge reason that people consider browsers to be unperformant (hilariously, based on my previous statement). I can understand the Safari team being less than excited to permit even worse performance.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#9

Post by mh- » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:51 PM UTC

rvnx wrote: post #5

More important: Stop losing authenticated sessions. Stop randomly corrupting the whole past cookie-jar for no reasons. Safari, just stop! This is crazy annoying.

I thought this was just me. It's so infrequent I never look into it, but it's maddening when it happens. And it's been happening for years.

I usually realize it occurred by finding myself logged out of HN.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#10

Post by ezfe » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:52 PM UTC

judiisis wrote: post #7

Also not supporting PWAs and in general being behind and ocking on next gen web features

Safari absolutely supports PWAs. There are features it doesn't support, but the premise is supported.