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Why doesn't advice work?

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Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#22
> Maybe your advice requires a lot of willpower.

Is willpower even a large factor in habit formation? Isn’t that just a myth?

> Why? Probably because running is hard. I maintain that if you run the right way, it isn’t nearly as hard as it first seems. But it’s still hard. Buying headphones or installing an air purifier is incredibly easy.

Yeah running is hard. That’s what I thought for the first 38 years of my life. I was “running hard” like you’re supposed to. Then I overheard that, for aerobic fitness, it’s best to stick to “Zone 2” for maybe 80% of your running time. What, really?

So much more comfortable. In fact it can be invigorating.

So why did it take so long (and happenstance) to figure this out? When this is apparently what serious aerobic runners do nowadays? On one hand I’m not that surprised when I look at fitness (not sports, just recreational fitness) itself: lots of ego and self-identity around having the willpower (allegedly) to stick to their particular fitness regime, which includes othering those who do not.

Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#24
I only take advice from people that are successful in that domain (sometimes people that suck at something still give advice on it), and are similar to me (I don't want exercise advice from my grandmother)

Even when I'm giving advice on a domain that I'm successful in, to a person that's similar to me, they rarely take it, so I've stopped giving it

Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#25
Honestly, after giving and taking a lot of advice in my life, I think the problem is people have something (A) they want to do in a situation, they then ask all their friends / family / mentors for advice, and even if 9/10 say to do B, they listen to the one person who says to do A. So it's not that people don't listen to advice, they just shop around and listen to somebody's advice that fits the desires they already have.

This has lead me to think the best thing you can do for yourself is to just ask a select few people who you really trust for advice. You still might not listen but at least you'll go into a decision knowing you're not listening to any of the advice you received.

Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#26
In a lot of situations, it is a social expectation to ask for advice, even if you have no intention of following it.

At the same time, it is socially inappropriate to tell someone you don’t want their advice because you disagree with their opinions/life decisions/etc.

Which is why, as a general rule, I think you should only take advice from people that have the same situation that you want to have - unless it’s negative advice not to do what they did.

Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#27
post #9

Most people, in my experience, not only do not think logically but actively eschew thinking logically, making long term plans, goal setting, etc. I don't know if it's an intelligence thing. I don't think it is. I have met not so smart people that are incredibly goal oriented and very smart people who piss it all away. I'm at a point in my career/life where I often find myself giving advice to people who aren't intere…

I’m one of those people because this comment gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#28
The thing is, even if someone listens to you with great intent, their life experience will usually preclude them from having to give any actionable advice. That's why, if someone is seeking you out for advice, you might want to stop and take the time to talk to them about their issue. They're seeking you out because they feel that your experience and problem resolution could potentially be valuable to them.

Re: Why doesn't advice work?

#30

I think it's a pretty simple, and timeless, aspect of human nature: "People are generally better persuaded by the reasons which they have themselves discovered than by those which have come into the mind of others." - Blaise Pascal, 1670

The trick is suggesting something to a person in a manner so they thought they came up with the idea itself.
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