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Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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Re: Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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Post by account42 »

fallingknife wrote: post #322
probably_wrong wrote: post #176

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For what is worth, I think Meta is lying about it, or at least playing the victim card too strongly. > They’re demanding that Meta provide free full services without personalized ads or a monthly fee for users. Meta is being sued because their paid plan is not honest - they are currently asking for 10€/month which is disproportionate - for comparison, a Business Standard Google Workspace account with 2Tb and Gemini c…

That is perfectly honest. If it were 10x that it would still be honest. Pay the price or don't use the service. Nobody owes you anything.

And we don't owe Facebook anything. Play by the rules or GTFO.

Re: Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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Post by wondertag »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #620
lanstin wrote: post #355

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They send resumes with the same accomplishments and names that indicate race and observe the relative degrees of acceptance. Everytime they do this test, considerable bias is found to still exist.

Still using resumes, have an ai interview for knowledge and communication skill.

Like many others, we've built a product to do this.

I think it gives a much higher signal on candidates than a resume, and is more "blind" in terms of bias than a human.

It's based on voice messages. Open to all here if anyone wants to take it for a spin. https://candit.net

Re: Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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Post by 93po »

xvector wrote: post #696
93po wrote: post #693

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modern tech can exist without tiktok algos that push eating disorder propaganda to 12 year olds that leads to suicide and hospitalization

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i really, really don't think that's likely to be the case

Re: Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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Post by Log_out_ »

I used to not understand these aggressive "everything else is shit" articles, as in whats the value proposition for the audience.horra patriotism is not in the market dor analysis. Nowadays i understand better, these articles is the closest thing the us has to systemic self-doubt for deciders.

Re: Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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Post by 0xBDB »

Wurdan wrote: post #505
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Not all progress is good progress. Adding lead to paint was progress at the time. Same with using asbestos for insulation. We’ve since decided that the costs outweigh the benefits there. Regulators should and do weigh both the harm and good of restricting the usage of new technology. The fact that they don’t always get it right isn’t a reason to stop regulation altogether.

> Regulators should and do weigh both the harm and good of restricting the usage of new technology. The fact that they don’t always get it right isn’t a reason to stop regulation altogether.

That might or might not be wrong, but is certainly a typically European perspective. The U.S. Bill of Rights is full of clauses specifying things like "Congress shall make no law regarding..." freedom of speech, establishments of religion, etc. because of the notion that the government's inability to reliably get it right is indeed a good reason to stop altogether.

Re: Europe is in danger of regulating its tech market out of existence

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IshKebab wrote: post #549
ericd wrote: post #431

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Nah, the first iPhone was too expensive, slow, and limited in capabilities (no App Store). They quickly iterated to improve on all of that. The first watch also kind of sucked. The initial iPod wasn’t a blockbuster, either - didn’t work well on Windows, required FireWire. I’m sure there are other initial misses. I think there’s something there with Vision Pro, they just need to iterate and get the cost down.

Are you really saying the original iPhone was a "product miss"???

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

ericd wrote: post #649
IshKebab wrote: post #624

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I dunno if you were alive at the time but that's not really what happened. The first iPhone was really expensive but people bought it anyway because it was sooo far ahead of the competition. Until the iPhone most people didn't even bother with smart phones because they were so bad (Blackberry was a partial exception). The web browsing wasn't slow - part of what made it so compelling was that you could browse the real…

>I dunno if you were alive at the time but that's not really what happened. I was pretty alive at the time, I was an intern on the iPhone team at Apple when it launched and the run-up, so I was using the first gen phone/touch all day every day, and I was paying pretty close attention to its launch (but just watching what was said in the press/by the people I knew, nothing privileged on the sales side). Looking around…

I don't think so. You are confusing the absolute and the relative. The iPhone when it launched had die hard fans. The sheer excitement was palpable. The Vision Pro has nothing like it.

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Post by petre »

account42 wrote: post #718
petre wrote: post #670

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It quickly generates BS text that costs billions of man hours to generate by people doing BS jobs, which could be doing something more useful, such as childcare. I'm using it to quickly localize our application into different languages, such as Arabic. German took like a few hours to get from non existing to 100% functional. Arabic was sketchy with Arabic mixed with French text, now it's 100% Arabic.

> which could be doing something more useful, such as childcare. Ok but what is your plan for letting people who lost their jobs to AI to do more meaningful things? Because unless there are bigger societal changes all it means those people will not have to find jobs that are even more bullshit.

I think they're going to do the same jobs they are doing now, but using AI instead which should probably reduce the amount of BS they have to deal with everyday. For instance some of the low pay work companies would use freelancers for, like processing huge amounts of data, manually transcribing text from documents, or content moderation.

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Post by pests »

aniviacat wrote: post #713
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They can't buy anything unless Europeans are willing to sell.

What's your intended message? Yes, people sell things voluntarily. (In particular, small companies being bought and killed by monopolies is usually very benefitial to the small companies' owners, even if it's bad for the economy as a whole.) That does not contradict the parent comments.

The parents comments are about foreign companies owning your company.

If you do not want that, do not voluntarily sell your company.

I like my cat. I don't want others owning my cat. I probably shouldn't sell my cat then right? I can't take the money now and complain later the neighbor owns my cat.

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Post by monksy »

account42 wrote: post #723
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It's not that most people hate risk. It's that individuals whom are harmed by sociopathic individuals that exploit methodologies, techniques, and products to enrich, steal, and harm the population. (When I say that I mean financially, emotionally, socially, physically, etc). To add further insult to injury, defending ones self against these individuals is disproportionately impossible. Socially: Creating and cultivat…

> Stealing: Scooter companies are actively stealing the public space to operate their business (sidewalks), endorsing their users to run over people on the sidewalk (also making it difficult to identify the individual), etc. OMG I cannot wait for these companies to be fined out of existence. How can you be allowed to have a business model that relies on people leaving your trash wherever they feel like it.

I have no idea. Chicago had a limited period in which the scooters could operate a few years back. I saw someone that had an experience where the scooter wasn't picked up more than a week past the end. I contacted the alderman to get streets and sanitation to remove the vehcile.

What I got was: The alderman employee tried to get this cleared with the scooter company rather than towed.

I was blown away.. if I parked in front of the Division blue line station my car would be fined, towed, charged with storage fees, potentially vandalized within an hour. Them? Oh the gov employee will do CS for them. I filed a complaint with the city ombudsman and later found out she was removed.

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