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Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by Bluestein »

orev wrote: post #9

The enshittification of everything is on the rise, and this is just another part of the trend of “let’s see if we can get away with it” (or “whaddaya gonna do bout it?”) From Google login popups, “open in the app” modals, and AI stealing everyone’s data, tech companies are firmly turning evil. It’s no longer about move fast and break things towards progress (even superficially), it’s about complete domination using a…

> or “whaddaya gonna do bout it?”

Also, "if can cheat, then cheat" ...

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by Bluestein »

orev wrote: post #9

The enshittification of everything is on the rise, and this is just another part of the trend of “let’s see if we can get away with it” (or “whaddaya gonna do bout it?”) From Google login popups, “open in the app” modals, and AI stealing everyone’s data, tech companies are firmly turning evil. It’s no longer about move fast and break things towards progress (even superficially), it’s about complete domination using a…

> it’s about complete domination using any means necessary.

We have fought and died fighting against despotism, only to have it return dressed in technology, like this ...

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by james_marks »

seattle_spring wrote: post #5
anonym29 wrote: post #3

>The most rational explanation for this is Temu is using a Javascript framework that also expects to be run offline (it's localized in multiple languages), they are querying some dead resource that shows this naive lazy error, and never redirected the page. Explains everything. Really? That's more plausible than a company being greedy and simply trying to deceive would-be unsubscribing users to continue pushing ads t…

Hanlon's Razor would support the "broken API" theory.

I shopped on Temu recently to understand what it was, and there were clear examples of this kind of dark pattern, so I’m biased to assume malice in this case.

I don’t remember all of it, but opening a million tabs so it’s hard to leave the site is one example.

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by JohnFen »

seattle_spring wrote: post #5
anonym29 wrote: post #3

>The most rational explanation for this is Temu is using a Javascript framework that also expects to be run offline (it's localized in multiple languages), they are querying some dead resource that shows this naive lazy error, and never redirected the page. Explains everything. Really? That's more plausible than a company being greedy and simply trying to deceive would-be unsubscribing users to continue pushing ads t…

Hanlon's Razor would support the "broken API" theory.

Why would they even code that, though? Your device will already tell you if you've lost your internet connection. This looks like incompetent sneaky stuff rather than incompetent legitimate stuff to me.

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by more_corn »

jvanderbot wrote: post #4
anonym29 wrote: post #3

>The most rational explanation for this is Temu is using a Javascript framework that also expects to be run offline (it's localized in multiple languages), they are querying some dead resource that shows this naive lazy error, and never redirected the page. Explains everything. Really? That's more plausible than a company being greedy and simply trying to deceive would-be unsubscribing users to continue pushing ads t…

Hanlons razor states that you shouldn't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. As far as I can tell, you've used it against your own argument. Greed (malice) is less preferred as an argument vs a non-robust implementation (incompetence).

People tend to become really incompetent when implementing features that are not in their company’s interest. It’s not malice it’s worse.

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by seattle_spring »

JohnFen wrote: post #14
seattle_spring wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hanlon's Razor would support the "broken API" theory.

Why would they even code that, though? Your device will already tell you if you've lost your internet connection. This looks like incompetent sneaky stuff rather than incompetent legitimate stuff to me.

Lots of SPAs detect when the Internet goes out or the server goes unresponsive so the experience is consistent and can be recovered without a page refresh once the problem is resolved.

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by JohnFen »

seattle_spring wrote: post #16
JohnFen wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they even code that, though? Your device will already tell you if you've lost your internet connection. This looks like incompetent sneaky stuff rather than incompetent legitimate stuff to me.

Lots of SPAs detect when the Internet goes out or the server goes unresponsive so the experience is consistent and can be recovered without a page refresh once the problem is resolved.

Interesting. I didn't know that, thank you.

Re: Temu's email unsubscribe page claims your Wi-Fi is disconnected

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Post by theanonymousone »

orev wrote: post #9

The enshittification of everything is on the rise, and this is just another part of the trend of “let’s see if we can get away with it” (or “whaddaya gonna do bout it?”) From Google login popups, “open in the app” modals, and AI stealing everyone’s data, tech companies are firmly turning evil. It’s no longer about move fast and break things towards progress (even superficially), it’s about complete domination using a…

> whaddaya gonna do bout it?

This is, IMHO, probably the only factor that matters: We let them dump into domination, and now we cannot "do anything about it", it seems.

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