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Is Cloudflare overcharging us for their images service?

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Re: Is Cloudflare overcharging us for their images service?

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If someone makes a startup solely to use LLMs to decipher billing statements, they will probably make a lot of money. Or, that will get bought out before they put sunlight on the tactics of innumerable companies.

Competition should fix this. Cloud computing will be a commodity eventually.

Re: Is Cloudflare overcharging us for their images service?

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I feel many cloud billing models are set up to initially account for the abusers of the service, and then account for the legitimate users. (in other words everyone’s assume to be a scammer or abuser, until you prove otherwise).

It’s an interesting concept, a corollary would be walking into a physical store and being treated as a thief, until you check out and make payment. (in fact the opposite is true generally as they check your receipt on exit, or you walk through the magnetometers on exit). I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, just making an observation.

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so they are overcharging and you need to rely on the refund so they can play tricks with their accounting

The issue though is if you keep bumping the capacity up each month, that credit keeps getting pushed into the next cycle.

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If someone makes a startup solely to use LLMs to decipher billing statements, they will probably make a lot of money. Or, that will get bought out before they put sunlight on the tactics of innumerable companies.

There are a bunch of companies doing this in a non AI fashion for AWS billing so there's got to be one/some out there doing it with AI, but at the point where you have an SQL database of your bill and are just constructing the right queries to ask it, using ChatGPT to help you construct the SQL is already there.

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If someone makes a startup solely to use LLMs to decipher billing statements, they will probably make a lot of money. Or, that will get bought out before they put sunlight on the tactics of innumerable companies.

Competition should fix this. Cloud computing will be a commodity eventually.

it isn't already?

Re: Is Cloudflare overcharging us for their images service?

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I feel many cloud billing models are set up to initially account for the abusers of the service, and then account for the legitimate users. (in other words everyone’s assume to be a scammer or abuser, until you prove otherwise). It’s an interesting concept, a corollary would be walking into a physical store and being treated as a thief, until you check out and make payment. (in fact the opposite is true generally as…

These days I get the feeling of being treated as a thief whenever I walk into a Walmart or some Home Depots. Gotta go through a pedestrian gate set up well inside the store (turnstile basically) and lots of cameras in your face specifically to say “Hey you thief, we’re watching you with our AI”.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Competition should fix this. Cloud computing will be a commodity eventually.

it isn't already?

To me it feels like it’s still in a heavy growth/R&D phase which requires heavier markup.

Someday we’ll reach equilibrium but it seems far away for now.

Re: Is Cloudflare overcharging us for their images service?

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I feel many cloud billing models are set up to initially account for the abusers of the service, and then account for the legitimate users. (in other words everyone’s assume to be a scammer or abuser, until you prove otherwise). It’s an interesting concept, a corollary would be walking into a physical store and being treated as a thief, until you check out and make payment. (in fact the opposite is true generally as…

These days I get the feeling of being treated as a thief whenever I walk into a Walmart or some Home Depots. Gotta go through a pedestrian gate set up well inside the store (turnstile basically) and lots of cameras in your face specifically to say “Hey you thief, we’re watching you with our AI”.

I've not tried Amazon walkout technology but it sounds like a good application of technology. if the system knows you took something, just charge the user for it rather than making a fuss about it.

(in b4 it's Actually Indians.)

Re: Is Cloudflare overcharging us for their images service?

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I clicked assuming this was analyzing how hilariously expensive Images is compared to most of their offerings, but it's about how hilariously bad Images' payment structure is. Nice! > It’s likely that we will replace Cloudflare Images in the long run. Looking at storage costs alone, S3 would be 4 times less expensive for our use-case. Cloudflare R2 would likely be a good choice too, if you're willing to bet that the…

R2 is still more expensive than other solutions I recommend idrive

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