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Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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As it becomes harder and harder to prove that I'm human, I wish the CAPTCHAs could tell me what I've become instead. I have written so many scripts. Maybe I'm becoming one and the CAPTCHAs are merely accurate.

> I wish the CAPTCHAs could tell me what I've become instead.

Why would you have "become" anything? It is not humans who changed. It is the computers who caught up with our skills. (at least the ones which are easy to verify automatically.)

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #21

As it becomes harder and harder to prove that I'm human, I wish the CAPTCHAs could tell me what I've become instead. I have written so many scripts. Maybe I'm becoming one and the CAPTCHAs are merely accurate.

> I wish the CAPTCHAs could tell me what I've become instead. Why would you have "become" anything? It is not humans who changed. It is the computers who caught up with our skills. (at least the ones which are easy to verify automatically.)

It could be read as a play on a particular movie monologue, intentional or not. Dr. Ford in Westworld Season 1, ep 10. Possibly adapted from prior stories.

> you [people; …] cannot change. Cause you're human afterall. […] So I began to compose a new story for them [aka. artificial intelligence]. It begins with […] the choices they will have to make; and the people they will decide to become.

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #13

> We explore the cost and security of reCAPTCHAv2 and conclude that it has an immense cost and no security. Overall, we believe that this study's results prompt a natural conclusion: reCAPTCHAv2 and similar reCAPTCHA technology should be deprecated. Not sure I 100% agree with the conclusion. IMO they currently still offer some level of security against unsophisticated actors, not no security. And something can be bad…

Yes, it's shit and annoying, just trash it already. There are much better and much more enjoyable captchas around. Like spin the panda around until it reflects the one shown on the image.

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #11

I abandon 1 in 10 captchas recently. They're becoming so abstract and confusing, few are on sites that I critically need to persevere with. Of the ones I do, I need to regenerate about a third as I'm slightly colour blind, but apparently enough to not see whatever they need me to see. Mostly I won't sign up to a service that has a captcha unless I know in advance it's a service I need (unlikely), it's an immediate cl…

Yeah, because while Google deprecates and throws out everything that is considered useful, it never throws out stuff that is old, cumbersome to use and just plain outdated, like their recaptcha madness. It's all about annoying people, and they love that. Just like their search results, those are also annoying and borderline useless.

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #19
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time to create a captcha solver Chrome plugin that is continually updated with the latest automated solving to make this easier. Captchas should be deemed an ADA violation.

Why are they an ADA violation? Who are they discriminating against

Blind people? Have you ever tried the audio “alternative” some captchas offer them?

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #11

I abandon 1 in 10 captchas recently. They're becoming so abstract and confusing, few are on sites that I critically need to persevere with. Of the ones I do, I need to regenerate about a third as I'm slightly colour blind, but apparently enough to not see whatever they need me to see. Mostly I won't sign up to a service that has a captcha unless I know in advance it's a service I need (unlikely), it's an immediate cl…

If you live in Europe or a country that has discrimination laws against less abled users, you should raise a complaint if a website uses Captcha's. I believe captchas are unnecessary and make life more difficult for visually and motor impaired users.

However, there are loads of captcha solving services you can sign up to that just solve them for you for basically free. For example, 2captcha. You install a browser extension and it just solves them for you.

Still ridiculous you have to do this.

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Captcha is nothing like a lock. It's a little guy that gives you a run around before you get to insert your key. It does very little to stop the bad actors (if there's a payday at the other end of the runaround, they'll do it), but annoys (and is a slap in the face for) every single legitimate user.

It takes a script kiddy considerably more effort to circumvent a captcha than just automating a site via curl or chromium. This difference is the increase in cost of an attack. This is the security gain.

It's now so trivial to solve them, and extremely cheap. You can install a chrome extension, give some solving service a $1 and basically never need to reload.

Re: Dazed and Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of ReCAPTCHAv (2023)

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post #11

I abandon 1 in 10 captchas recently. They're becoming so abstract and confusing, few are on sites that I critically need to persevere with. Of the ones I do, I need to regenerate about a third as I'm slightly colour blind, but apparently enough to not see whatever they need me to see. Mostly I won't sign up to a service that has a captcha unless I know in advance it's a service I need (unlikely), it's an immediate cl…

Sony protects itself from customers seeking warranty repairs with 5 tests in a row, some of which are unsolvable[0]. You then get "this wasn't quite right" notification after 5 tests, on logged-in account with valid credit card assigned and billed by Sony, when even one of these captcha tests was broken.

After I did my best to solve 25 tests, I learned that non-warranty support form is equally customer-hostile. When I called them by phone, they told me that filling out the form is the only way to open warranty case.

I went to their physical store and only after hearing magic phrase "full refund", they were interested in doing warranty repair. I went with the refund. Fuck Sony.

[0] https://sysartist.com/tmp/sony_puzzle.png

[0] https://sysartist.com/tmp/sony_puzzle2.png

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