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Ipv6 is for poor people, until the poors figure out something really cool you can do with it the rich will never switch
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You can self-host a Tailscale control sever with Headscale[1]. It's not quite at feature parity with Tailscale, but it supports most if not all the current feature set and its improving every day. One of the lead devs is even paid by Tailscale to work on it, IIRC. I run it for my personal self-hosted infra, and it works really well. Setting a custom control server URL is relatively easy (at least on Windows and Andro…
Cool! Any important features you miss when running Headscale?
And of course the API used to manage the official server, so the rare things that depend on it won't work, but it's more a case that the project doesn't have the need to work on it
The eternal problem with companies like Tailscale (and Cloudflare, Google, etc. etc.) is that, by solving a problem with the modern internet which the internet should have been designed to solve by itself, like simple end-to-end secure connectivity, Tailscale becomes incentivized to keep the problem . What the internet would need is something like IPv6 with automatic encryption via IPsec, with PKI provided by DNSSEC.…
I have no problem criticizing tech companies, but I try to wait until they behave badly.
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That is not ARP problem. Its called broadcast storm and its problem of stupid people and/or bad equipment. You can bring any network down with incompetence. Thats why newer switches have STP, DHCP Snooping, ARP security and so on. Now take a look at ND tables exchaustion alone. Trival attack to do on IPv6 segment. Is it solved yet? I dont know. I do NOT track it. The whole PnP (I call it Plug and Pray) is terrible ap…
> That is not ARP problem. Its called broadcast storm and its problem of stupid people and/or bad equipment. You can bring any network down with incompetence. It's a footgun. All footguns have ways to not trigger them, but saying you can't blow off a leg is also inaccurate. Reducing the number of footguns laying about is generally a good thing > Now take a look at ND tables exchaustion alone. No different than ARP ta…
And yeah.. soft LL in IPv4 is good idea. You can use it. In IPv6 you are forced to use it. Oh thank you, OSPFv3 configuration is so cool on in IPv6..
The eternal problem with companies like Tailscale (and Cloudflare, Google, etc. etc.) is that, by solving a problem with the modern internet which the internet should have been designed to solve by itself, like simple end-to-end secure connectivity, Tailscale becomes incentivized to keep the problem . What the internet would need is something like IPv6 with automatic encryption via IPsec, with PKI provided by DNSSEC.…
So far as I’m aware, TailScale has been at all times a good actor. I have no problem criticizing tech companies, but I try to wait until they behave badly.
I suppose if you follow that thread though a lot of businesses just shouldn't exist except for fulfilling the need they fill for the sake of those in need.
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There is another reason: the addresses are long and impossible to remember and hard to type. I always bring this up and it’s always dismissed because tech people continue to dismiss usability concerns. Even “small” usability differences can have a huge effect on adoption.
> There is another reason: the addresses are long and impossible to remember and hard to type. If only there was some mechanism in which we could use a human-friendly label and have that translated to a computer-usable address… > I always bring this up and it’s always dismissed because tech people continue to dismiss usability concerns. I don't bother remembering IPv4 addresses, so I'm not sure why I would bother to…
Me, that’s the new number for the emergency services.
Actually, that’s the only phone number I can remember :D
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> What IPng team should do, is just take IPv4, extended it to 64bit, call it IPv6 and we are done. Tell me you've never had to seriously design and operate networks at scale without telling me etc... This is a bit like Chesterton's fence - until you understand why (for example) ARP is a hilariously bad design and a major problem when trying to design networks at scale, then you can't understand why someone might want…
Its not so easy. First, yeah I was operating networks, not maybe hyperscalers, but 200+ switches. Yes, ARP had a its problems, like ARP poisoning, but they are all sorted out already. IPv6 took its ND and bring a lot of other problems that we are solving AGAIN . Pure waste of time and effort. Also, please cut the crap about IoT and Hyper IP networks centrally managed. Thats just serveral huge corporations. Majority i…
The place that is behind are corporate networks.
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So far as I’m aware, TailScale has been at all times a good actor. I have no problem criticizing tech companies, but I try to wait until they behave badly.
Wouldn't the point be they're an indecent, possibly bad, actor by default since they're a business at all rather than just creating or contributing to protocols/standards to resolve the issues their product relies on to exist? The only way they could be a good actor is if they're using the money from their sales to fund that initiative with a plan to obsolete themselves. I suppose if you follow that thread though a l…
In fact, I prefer that capitalist model at this point having seen countless OSS/nonprofit efforts turn into glorified abandonware.
At least the business has an interest in remaining a going concern and maintaining the stack.
I love Tailscale, but this post gives me the creeps. The internet succeeded because it was built on standards and was completely free. With Tailscale, I get wireguard is open source and we have things like Headscale. But the whole everyone gets an IP, doesn’t it depend on Tailscale owning a massive ip address space? We can all wait until full ipv6 rollout, or we can depend on centralized ipv4, and servers and proprie…
If you had to move off of tailscale, what would you move to?