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The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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Re: The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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I am already a slave to my Gmail, so I really don't see how putting even more pressure on my back would do me any good. What I really like to see are tools that actually help me get to the bottom of my inbox, Boomerang being a great example (email "snooze", very useful for cooling some threads down - http://www.boomeranggmail.com )

I really like followup.cc (similar to Boomerang) but you'd be surprised how a little stick can help.

Re: The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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I currently have over 15,000 unread emails (not even archived). I see no point in reading them all, I've already looked at the titles. E-mails I care about are filtered into folders or marked as important.

The idea for this was inspired by Getting Things Done (by David Allen). The key idea is that to achieve productivity, you need a clear mind. A clear mind is knowing that everything in your life is either shelved away for Archival purposes, has a clear present next action or is awaiting followup from someone else.

The 15,000 unread emails would drive me crazy. Perhaps declaring email bankruptcy is a way to get out of it?

Re: The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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I do. 5 overall states for email: unread read+star (urgent/reminder) read (todo/reference for current tasks/projects) archived (done + keep for reference) deleted (done + not needed for reference, or ignored altogether) - so "your amazon order shipped" etc. I don't keep the inbox empty, but there are only emails regarding ACTIVE tasks/conversations in it, its natural state is 0 unread emails, as if you don't do that,…

Sounds almost exactly me. I leave important emails in my inbox that I'm working with (and one or two from my parents). I have a max of about 10 at any time. Zero unread. I would love to see these states represented: - Unseen (sent but I haven't opened my inbox or cleared the notification) - Unread (seen but not opened) - Read - Read & replied Then I can delete and archive when I want.

I think GmailZero is perfect for your workflow. You can set your goal as inbox 10 instead of inbox 0. I could also see an argument for inbox 25 or whatever fits on one screen. Or maybe inbox 7 as the number of things you can hold in short-term memory...

Re: The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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After Artificial Intelligence. Artificial Critique. As if my inner chastiser wasn't hard enough to deal with :/ Sorry, this will only increase my stress. It is not the solution. Just like the emails weighing down on you.

You're in the uncanny valley of stress where it's enough to upset you, but not enough to get you to fix it :)

Perhaps an increase in stress level is exactly what you need to really get this fixed since you do care about it.

Re: The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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Awesome! I knew these descriptions exist. I heard through the rumor mill that google had identified 12 distinct types of emailers too. I am a piler. I agree with responding to email appropriately, but it is definitely just going to get left in my inbox.

The problem with leaving things in my inbox is that if I don't deal with it immediately, it quickly disappears in the stream of incoming stuff. So in theory I could "just develop the discipline" to deal with important / worthy items at the time of reading, but expecting myself to manufacture that discipline out of thin air actually stresses me out way more than a commitment device.

I just star anything that needs response and leave everything in the inbox.

If you need it, you can add different color stars to represent whatever you want.

I don't understand why people feel the need to archive. Seems like procrastination through over-optimization to me.

Re: The Gmail Zero project: commitment device for Inbox Zero

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post #31

I am already a slave to my Gmail, so I really don't see how putting even more pressure on my back would do me any good. What I really like to see are tools that actually help me get to the bottom of my inbox, Boomerang being a great example (email "snooze", very useful for cooling some threads down - http://www.boomeranggmail.com )

I really like followup.cc (similar to Boomerang) but you'd be surprised how a little stick can help.

I agree that http://followup.cc is better than Boomerang. Though I like my home brewed Google Apps Script solution best of all, based on http://lifehacker.com/5825634/how-to-add-a-snooze-button-to-...

By using integers as labels I can snooze things for a specified number of days with just a couple keystrokes. And I'm not relying on an external service that way. Emails with the label "1" are not in my inbox today, but they automatically will be again tomorrow.

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