The workers have spoken: They're staying home • Hacker News Board

Re: The workers have spoken: They're staying home

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Post by Justsignedup » Wed, Jul 24, 2024, 1:35 PM UTC

johnnyanmac wrote: post #223

Justsignedup wrote: post #102

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Mixed bag for me. My office is pretty decent but we have a bigger office than we currently need. My last job, at the office it was so loud (no dedicated conference rooms) that I was better off being at home, but unfortunately they also had zero respect for calendars, so getting in touch with people was... pretty much horrible no matter what way. In-office was less bad. I had offices with desks so small and shitty I j…

>I once had a boss that saw my desk and started complaining to HR that it was too big, and if we can split this desk into 2 to save on office space. ooh, I know the perfect way to save on office space... as is the theme of 2023/4, Companies want to pretend they want X, but then make X as miserable as possible because the real reason is Y (anywhere from taxes, to sunk cost fallacy, to lack of trust in workers, etc).

This was... 2018. They'd also take an office meant for 1 person and convert it into a 3-person room, with a lack of airflow.

It was bad.

Re: The workers have spoken: They're staying home

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Post by machomaster » Thu, Jul 25, 2024, 9:25 PM UTC

moffkalast wrote: post #248

machomaster wrote: post #221

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You are seriously underestimating the amount of sweating a normal, healthy man does if he trained consistently for some time and his body learned to quickly adapt to minimal physical stress (heck, I sweat profusely even if I merely slowly walk). Let alone if there are any kinds of hills.

TIL, I've looked it up and apparently you're right. The more fit someone is, the more they sweat. That's so counterintuitive tbh, I would've thought that it would be the opposite since you don't need to strain as much, but I guess there must be some baseline energy use and more muscle mass equals more heating, plus a faster learned cooling response. Ironically that makes cycling a much better choice for people who ar…

The better performance of a fit person is partly explained by more muscles (incl. heart), but a significant part of performance boost is the fact that body autoregulates (e.g. by sweating and keeping the temperature perfect for activity, instead of letting body overheat, which results in a performance drop) itself so much better.

Raising the heart rate much faster is also part of a better self-regulation of a fit person.

Re: The workers have spoken: They're staying home

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Post by ds1977 » Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 5:55 PM UTC

ThinkBeat wrote: post #247

SR2Z wrote: post #220

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> The tech worker primadonnas vastly overestimats their own value to the company. Lots of people have been saying this forever, but the truth is much more nuanced: tech workers are incredibly valuable IF interest rates are low. Look at the revenue per employee figures of most tech companies. The difficulty is that the value of tech workers tends to be speculative until they've delivered something, and the low rates g…

What you are arguing is provably false. Just look at the Twitter example. There are many others. Facebook has been thinning resources as well. There is consensus that major tech companies had hired resources they did not need. Then there is the sad fact that some tech workers (as in any field) are shit at their jobs and provide negative value to companies. More are mediocre. (again as in every field) There are also a…

You missed off the second part of the argument: "tech workers are incredibly valuable IF interest rates are low." The point being made was that tech companies can be a lot more speculative when money is cheap.