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X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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When the platform is the web this means you get inconsistent emojis across browsers. Also Twitter has better designed emojis than any browser vendor hands down.

This is just a special case of how different fonts appear different.

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf

This is a case of companies rendering 1F52B to something it is specifically not.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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This is why I believe including emoji in unicode was a blunder. A capital "A" is the same in any font; I can write a message in monospace and my interlocutor can read it in sans-serif, or tap in morse code and have it rendered in hand- writing, in all cases the difference is immaterial. On the other hand we don't use pictures in the same way, the meaning of the message depends on the exact picture used as part of the…

I’m pretty sure the thumbs up emoji or the slightly smiling emoji won’t get different interpretations based on font. And here the issue is not in font differences (or different pictures of the same thing getting different interpretations): it’s the thing represented that’s actually different.

In the earlier days of emojis, some Samsung or blob emojis definitely look different enough from Apple emojis that it caused confusion..

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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Disagree. If the cat emoji becomes a dog, it isn't OK if it's the same everywhere. I don't think it's much different to turn the poo emoji into flowers, the bomb emoji into a kiss, or the pistol emoji into a water pistol.

The question isn't whether it was OK to turn the gun emoji into a water pistol in the first place. It doesn't matter if it wasn't. It was done, and it was done at a time when there was political will for everyone to follow suit and be consistent. The question is whether it's OK to turn it back. Because there ISN'T the same political will. And other emoji providers will NOT follow X in this. Having X "go back" because…

You have to stand for something and Musk is someone who continually shoots his foot for his beliefs. Probably does not matter to him if no one follows (although now that I know the history, everyone should have pushed back in 2016 but the second best time is to push back now)

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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This seems like approximately the dumbest possible place to have political battles. Isn't the entire purpose of having a standard set of emojis as part of Unicode to enable reliable communication of the concepts and emotions associated with them? In that sense it's perfectly fine if it was a water pistol, a real gun or whatever else as long as it's the same thing everywhere . But the same codepoint showing up as a wa…

Emojis lost the plot when they became too anthropomorphic. Now that they're realistic humanoids they need to represent all skin types, genders, ages, pregnant men, etc. A smiley doesn't need gender, sex, or age, to convey meaning.

I'm with you on that one. I think that was an indicator of how political sentiment and goals seems to have shifted at one point from "reconcile differences and eventually just feel as one human race" to "emphasize differences and pledge allegiance to whatever group I belong to".

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I grew up with the argument that video game violence causes real violence. At the time, conservatives were keen on censoring violence, blood and gore in movies, video games and TV shows. It was the liberal establishment that defended artistic violence and sexuality. Now it seems like the pendulum swung and liberals seem keen on promoting squirt gun emojis, meanwhile some of the most popular video games on the market…

It's still conservatives, but conservatives from the culture that liberals ushered in over the past several decades. This explains the college campus dynamic as well, where all these professors that fought for liberal ideas in the 1970's and 1980's grew old and stopped questioning their own ideas. Now they're busy closing the ranks and tone policing anybody that pokes holes in their dogma. That dynamic isn't liberali…

Zizek said it best: every culture war is today's conservatives fighting the conservatives of 30 years in the future.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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The original change was for ideological reasons and this change is for ideological reasons too. Both are same stupid waste of time.

If you think the first change was stupid, why would you support keeping it?

Because it's the change that's stupid.

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> Can you help me understand what woke culture is to you? Within this context it’s replacing guns with water pistols, systematically and comprehensively, in the name of fighting gun violence. On the same token, it’s replacing a water pistol emoji with a gun—in the aftermath of an armed assassination attempt on a Presidential candidate (and former President)—on a platform that regularly censors, in the name of free sp…

> Performative nonsense designed to appeal to emotions instead of doing something about the implied problem. (Guns and censorship, respectively.) Thanks! This helps me understand it a bit more. Sort of a synonym for "virtue signalling" it seems?

> Sort of a synonym for "virtue signalling" it seems?

I genuinely have no idea what that term means anymore.

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