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X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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post #68

This is exactly as stupid as changing it to a water pistol in the first place was

Why do you want a real gun? I bet most uses are to bully people. It seems that's the kind of social network Elon wants.

>Why do you want to allow the word "loser" ? I bet most uses are to bully people.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#182

The water pistol is an analog of a real gun no matter how silly they are shaped. Growing up most of the plastic guns were models of the Colt M1911 and other semi automatic pistols. As a kid you knew what you were emulating: shooting a real gun at someone. Hell, Cowboys and Indians is a fucked up game for kids used to play. Even the comical looking ray gun is a futuristic energy weapon that is usually depicted as bein…

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Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#183
post #124

This seems like approximately the dumbest possible place to have political battles. Isn't the entire purpose of having a standard set of emojis as part of Unicode to enable reliable communication of the concepts and emotions associated with them? In that sense it's perfectly fine if it was a water pistol, a real gun or whatever else as long as it's the same thing everywhere . But the same codepoint showing up as a wa…

I wonder if there was a way for other clients to detect apple and translate their 'watergun' into a new emoji while keeping backwards compatibility on all other clients. Or another way for all vendors to push back against Apple is for all agree to not render the new emoji from Apple devices. Its too late now but one of these two would have been a good solution in 2016 to push back against Apple's nonsense. I guess since this is also used in SMS there is no way to properly detect the client its coming from?

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#184

This from a guy who unveils his new data center at exactly 420 and has a line of cars intentionally named to spell out “s3xy” and the reason we’re all forced to say “space sex” out loud every time we talk about a rocket launch. We are trapped in a meme.

"Comedy should be illegal again."

What a ridiculous overreaction: people are allowed to criticize his poor taste. Unless you want free speech to be "illegal again"

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#186

This from a guy who unveils his new data center at exactly 420 and has a line of cars intentionally named to spell out “s3xy” and the reason we’re all forced to say “space sex” out loud every time we talk about a rocket launch. We are trapped in a meme.

"Comedy should be illegal again."

Agreed. I'm sick of people I disagree with having fun.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#187
post #124

This seems like approximately the dumbest possible place to have political battles. Isn't the entire purpose of having a standard set of emojis as part of Unicode to enable reliable communication of the concepts and emotions associated with them? In that sense it's perfectly fine if it was a water pistol, a real gun or whatever else as long as it's the same thing everywhere . But the same codepoint showing up as a wa…

It's not exactly something new though. Windows still doesn't have a native implementation of country flags.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#188
post #146
post #124

This seems like approximately the dumbest possible place to have political battles. Isn't the entire purpose of having a standard set of emojis as part of Unicode to enable reliable communication of the concepts and emotions associated with them? In that sense it's perfectly fine if it was a water pistol, a real gun or whatever else as long as it's the same thing everywhere . But the same codepoint showing up as a wa…

This is why I believe including emoji in unicode was a blunder. A capital "A" is the same in any font; I can write a message in monospace and my interlocutor can read it in sans-serif, or tap in morse code and have it rendered in hand- writing, in all cases the difference is immaterial. On the other hand we don't use pictures in the same way, the meaning of the message depends on the exact picture used as part of the…

> A capital "A" is the same in any font; I can write a message in monospace and my interlocutor can read it in sans-serif, or tap in morse code and have it rendered in hand- writing, in all cases the difference is immaterial

Many typefaces are have problematic I/l/1 and O/0 characters, and that is material enough that applications avoid those characters entirely to avoid potential confusion.

The problem is deeper than unicode: the fact that any codepoints can be rendered differently from client to client or typeface-to-typeface was always problematic, even back it was mostly ASCII.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it alarming that the meaning of previous texts between many people could be altered by simply changing the glyph of an emote. And noone voted for it, all companies effectively in charge of these emojis (Google, Apple, etc.) decided for everyone that it was for the best. What will they change next, who initiated and coordinated that effort, and why, are all important questions. I'm very much against it. It's t…

What's your opinion on this current change of meaning? The previous one has now been in use for 6 years, many messages are about to change meaning, this time in potentially quite negative ways. Follow-up: What's your opinion on the word "woke"? Do you still use the original agreed upon definition from AAVE, or do you prefer the way conservatives have mutated our language? (The question is rhetorical, but I hope you s…

The definition from AAVE is definitely not original. It’s a mutated version as well.

The gun emoji had existed as a gun before as well for that many years. Nobody cared about rewriting text history on that change either.

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