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Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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I was reading the newspaper a few weeks ago and there were two articles that amused me:

The first one was about Dutch high speed trains having to reduce speed to 80kph because the construction company fucked up the bridge construction. The second article was about the new high speed train in Indonesia.

Every once in a while you're reminded that this is Asia's century.

Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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post #2

I was reading the newspaper a few weeks ago and there were two articles that amused me: The first one was about Dutch high speed trains having to reduce speed to 80kph because the construction company fucked up the bridge construction. The second article was about the new high speed train in Indonesia. Every once in a while you're reminded that this is Asia's century.

Unlike HS2, the Indonesian high speed train does not attempt to go to the city center. Instead, there is a slow feeder train to get to the terminal on the outskirts of Bandung that takes almost as long as the high speed train itself. So, Asia has not solved this particular problem either.

The main problem with HS2 is that it goes underground through rural areas for political reasons.

Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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Laber needs to get off its ass and reorganize this. The way the whole HS2 thing is organised is braindead.

Throwing all the costs for everything from stations to trains into the same semi-private company. Not learning best practices from Japan rail station operation. Building way to many tunnels because of a few braindead Nimbys.

Simply recreate BritishRail, make the railroad public, including things like rolling stock as well. Put HS2 into BritishRail.

Then create a long term rail 2050 plan. HS2 should be fully done, with the original route. This will allow a massive reorganisation of the rest of the network.

Common labor, this are the 5 years to prove yourself.

Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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post #2

I was reading the newspaper a few weeks ago and there were two articles that amused me: The first one was about Dutch high speed trains having to reduce speed to 80kph because the construction company fucked up the bridge construction. The second article was about the new high speed train in Indonesia. Every once in a while you're reminded that this is Asia's century.

Indonesia's HSR stations are so far out of Jakarta/Bandung, the trips there and back are almost certainly going to be the majority of your trip. People complained about Euston not linking up well, imagine if you'd have to first go to Milton Keynes.

The Netherlands are having to build track over bog. It can't sink, it can't vibrate too much. It's hard to get right.

The Chinese can build track through your living room if they want to. Plus, they have accidents and structural failures all the time too.

Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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post #2

I was reading the newspaper a few weeks ago and there were two articles that amused me: The first one was about Dutch high speed trains having to reduce speed to 80kph because the construction company fucked up the bridge construction. The second article was about the new high speed train in Indonesia. Every once in a while you're reminded that this is Asia's century.

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Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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post #5
post #2

I was reading the newspaper a few weeks ago and there were two articles that amused me: The first one was about Dutch high speed trains having to reduce speed to 80kph because the construction company fucked up the bridge construction. The second article was about the new high speed train in Indonesia. Every once in a while you're reminded that this is Asia's century.

Unlike HS2, the Indonesian high speed train does not attempt to go to the city center. Instead, there is a slow feeder train to get to the terminal on the outskirts of Bandung that takes almost as long as the high speed train itself. So, Asia has not solved this particular problem either. The main problem with HS2 is that it goes underground through rural areas for political reasons.

High speed trains in France, Germany, Italy, ... all usually go to the city centres as well.

Re: More delays for Euston's HS2 station

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post #2

I was reading the newspaper a few weeks ago and there were two articles that amused me: The first one was about Dutch high speed trains having to reduce speed to 80kph because the construction company fucked up the bridge construction. The second article was about the new high speed train in Indonesia. Every once in a while you're reminded that this is Asia's century.

If we're talking Dutch high-speed rails, don't forget the Fyra!

It was a high-speed train plagued with so many issues it was returned to the manufacturer. To give an example: one day 85% of the trips had to be cancelled due to defective trains, with one of those which did run losing parts(!) at high speed; the train wasn't water-tight; the brakes were designed for 160km/h despite the train itself going 250 km/h; a train horn which couldn't handle snow; batteries in the passenger compartment catching fire; doors opening at full speed; and of course software issues. Mind you, this is just some of the issues - the full list is a lot longer.

They were returned to maker AnsaldoBreda, and now seem to be operating well enough in Italy and Greece.

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