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Google Maps is ruining us

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Re: Google Maps is ruining us

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Frequency of use of road, or else some kind of road review is relevant for rural roads.

It'd be interesting to see if the road is mostly used by farmers but other locals avoid it, and Google theoritically has all that info, assuming they have Android phones: a farmer lives near the fields and spend a lot of their daytime on the fields, a local lives in the village.

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

#23

>And it was all Google Maps’ fault. No, it was your fault. Paper maps can be, and almost certainly all are, wrong. It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea? Even if you run into an island where there should be no island, or drive into a space that should be fit for cars but is not, your hands are on the wheel and your feet are on the pedals.…

You need to read the next paragraph of the article.

"lol j/k it's really because I made the mistake of trusting the computer" is deflective nonsense.

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

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>And it was all Google Maps’ fault. No, it was your fault. Paper maps can be, and almost certainly all are, wrong. It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea? Even if you run into an island where there should be no island, or drive into a space that should be fit for cars but is not, your hands are on the wheel and your feet are on the pedals.…

> It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea?

That's what the US Navy does (in part) when a $3 billion submarine hits an underwater mountain.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/politics/navy-submarine-under...

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can it get you shot?

Going up the wrong road and ending up inside a favela https://www.france24.com/en/20170807-british-tourist-shot-af...

Mm. Google Maps will sometimes confidently suggest roads which without that recommendation would have seemed quite unsuitable. So people put their instincts aside and think Google must know better ... only to regret it later.

It would be helpful if Google could add a few qualifiers like "Note that this is a very steep and mostly single-lane unpaved road" or "This road leads through an unsafe neighbourhood", followed by "An alternative route would be ..."

Maybe in a few years' time.

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

#26
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I don't like how it is "because we trusted screens" A physical map that was marked the same way and touted as being up to date would have caused the exact same problem. At some point things are not going to work and you're going to have rely on human judgement. It sounds like trust was built up enough over time that such reliance was second nature.

I have some inkling that not having the urge to lock in to a single input (as TFA puts it) is not universal. One of the most common reasons (IIRC) for failing the RN's submarine command course (the "perisher") is excessive reliance on a single instrument -- these are officers with 5-10 years of experience by the time they enter the course, and the cream of the crop to have even qualified -- and with enough stress, even they lose the ability to do "sensor fusion".

Anecdotally, I don't know anyone who's constantly doubting the map and cross-checking it against signs the way I do when driving or walking. Then again, my first thought in basically any situation is what the worst case could be! so...

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

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>And it was all Google Maps’ fault. No, it was your fault. Paper maps can be, and almost certainly all are, wrong. It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea? Even if you run into an island where there should be no island, or drive into a space that should be fit for cars but is not, your hands are on the wheel and your feet are on the pedals.…

> It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea? That's what the US Navy does (in part) when a $3 billion submarine hits an underwater mountain. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/politics/navy-submarine-under...

That event is perfectly illustrative of my point.

You can't even see out of a submarine but still the commander, executive officer, and chief of the boat of that submarine were fired because no matter what technology or capabilities exist it is the responsibility of the person in control of the machine to control the machine.

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

#29
One thing I'm finding myself not liking about Google Maps is its routing algorithm. It defaults to something I'm not positive on, perhaps shortest possible route or time? But in doing so often has me taking 5 or 10 turns through neighborhoods and poorly lit streets that don't seem designed for through traffic.

When I look at the map, I usually see a way easier way to go, that's usually about the same or maybe a minute or so longer. I wish it defaulted to that. I'd much rather have an easy, two turn 15 minute drive than a zig zag through neighborhood 14 minute drive.

Re: Google Maps is ruining us

#30

>And it was all Google Maps’ fault. No, it was your fault. Paper maps can be, and almost certainly all are, wrong. It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea? Even if you run into an island where there should be no island, or drive into a space that should be fit for cars but is not, your hands are on the wheel and your feet are on the pedals.…

> It is normal to blame a paper map if you sail off the edge of the Earth where the map says there ought to be more sea? That's what the US Navy does (in part) when a $3 billion submarine hits an underwater mountain. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/politics/navy-submarine-under...

To be fair, US military anything is about as far as you can be from normalcy
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