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Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by elzbardico »

darkwizard42 wrote: post #35
Andaith wrote: post #24

It's pretty brutal here in Australia. Higher interest rates mean companies are aggressively reducing headcount. Insanely high immigration means statistically for every 1 job being created we're importing 1.4 workers. Job vacancies across the economy are down 16.4% yearly change according to ABS. Also according to ABS, Job vacancies, change from February 2020 to May 2024, for IT is an increase of just 1.8%. In summary…

The solution to a housing crisis is to limit immigration? Wouldn’t it be to build more dense housing (thereby spurring economic activity and lowering a primary expense of households)???

Sorry for interrupting your religious moment. But in the real world you need capital for that. There’s absolutely no fucking reason to consider immigration a human right.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by MrSS »

realusername wrote: post #13

I'm based in the EU as a fullstack developer and nothing changed much, I'm hearing that there's a crisis on the US market but it's not reaching the EU yet or it's so small that it's not visible to me.

I know people in germany who struggled more getting a job than 'usual'

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by realusername »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #19
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no way you can replace competent programmers with ChatGPT. I still have to check the output all the time and it’s often wrong or just doesn’t even know what I’m asking about.

But many people are claiming that chatgpt increases their productivity by 50-100%. Doesn't it mean we need less programmers now?

No, it means we are building even more stuff with the same developers.

The limiting factor still is the number of software developers, not the software demand.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by nopelynopington »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #18
a_t48 wrote: post #6

After I quit my last job, I ended up starting my own thing - wasn't ready to go through the hassle of interviewing again.

This is the way. Software devs can make so much money and have so much more control over their lives, instead of grinding FAANG.

It doesn't always work out like that. A lot of people out there who take a run at doing their own thing and can't make it profitable.

It's fun to reduce a job to "the grind" but sometimes dependable income and benefits are better than freedom and risk

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by renewiltord »

darkwizard42 wrote: post #35
Andaith wrote: post #24

It's pretty brutal here in Australia. Higher interest rates mean companies are aggressively reducing headcount. Insanely high immigration means statistically for every 1 job being created we're importing 1.4 workers. Job vacancies across the economy are down 16.4% yearly change according to ABS. Also according to ABS, Job vacancies, change from February 2020 to May 2024, for IT is an increase of just 1.8%. In summary…

The solution to a housing crisis is to limit immigration? Wouldn’t it be to build more dense housing (thereby spurring economic activity and lowering a primary expense of households)???

Amusingly, this is one of those cases where it’s obviously correct and people jump through all sorts of hoops to not accept it.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by nvy »

darkwizard42 wrote: post #35
Andaith wrote: post #24

It's pretty brutal here in Australia. Higher interest rates mean companies are aggressively reducing headcount. Insanely high immigration means statistically for every 1 job being created we're importing 1.4 workers. Job vacancies across the economy are down 16.4% yearly change according to ABS. Also according to ABS, Job vacancies, change from February 2020 to May 2024, for IT is an increase of just 1.8%. In summary…

The solution to a housing crisis is to limit immigration? Wouldn’t it be to build more dense housing (thereby spurring economic activity and lowering a primary expense of households)???

Here in Canada we literally cannot build housing fast enough. The government is targeting half a million immigrants annually, and we recently set an all-time housing starts record of only about half that number.

Sometimes it actually is immigration that is causing problems.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by sakopov »

I'm in the US and It's bad. Really bad. I feel terrible for anyone without a job trying to find something new. It seems like the only option is to go hunt for recruiters or ask someone to make a recommendation for you at the company you're interested in. Otherwise your resume is probably never looked at. In my experience I tend to see more jobs available in Midwest than anywhere else right now. The pay is pretty average but it isn't terribly low. We're definitely nowhere near the salaries we had a couple years back.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by him6ul »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #19
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no way you can replace competent programmers with ChatGPT. I still have to check the output all the time and it’s often wrong or just doesn’t even know what I’m asking about.

But many people are claiming that chatgpt increases their productivity by 50-100%. Doesn't it mean we need less programmers now?

It is indeed helpful. It takes care of lot of mundane statements which I used to type earlier or use macros for. But AI at this point, still cannot write core logic - it will help in creating envelope but core business logic you still have to plugun.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by PhilipRoman »

Latvia here, the company I work at is actively looking to hire for embedded but so far haven't had any luck. We don't even have any hard constraints for applicants like degree requirements, etc. It's surprising how many developers don't know what a syscall is.

I would recommend expanding your field of view and learning a bit of everything. It's become a trope nowadays that one cannot understand the entire stack from top to bottom but that really isn't true.

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