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What Happened to Ancient Megafauna?

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Re: What Happened to Ancient Megafauna?

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I was reading an article, some time ago, about Amazon Indians that actually like rotten meat. Apparently, it is quite nutritious, doesn't hurt them (maybe acquired immunity?), and is probably fairly easy to digest (it's halfway there, already). Scavenging spoiled meat is a fairly classic natural trait, and even apex predators won't pass up an easy snack.

>Scavenging spoiled meat is a fairly classic natural trait, and even apex predators won't pass up an easy snack. It has to be said that humans in particular have stomach acidity on the levels of scavenger type meat eaters. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjourn... There's been a decent amount of research on the relation between stomach pH and diet, with animal species that have pronounced scaven…

There's an interesting bit about the Mandan tribe I've read about how dead floating bison were considered a delicacy [1]

>McKenzie observed something else as well. Once hauled from the water, the carcasses “were left for some time to Season into a flavor then carried home and at feasts are reckoned a great delicacy.” McKenzie found these ripened “float bison” revolting. But they were a delicacy – documented by many observers – for Missouri River peoples. The more rotten the flesh, the more appealing it was. “When the skin is raised you will see the flesh of a greenish hue, and ready to become alive at the least exposure to the sun,” McKenzie said, the meat, “so ripe, so tender, that very little boiling is required – the stench is absolutely intolerable.” The Indians preferred float bison “to any other kind of food.” It boiled up into a “bottle green” soup that the Mandans “reckoned delicious.” Indeed, McKenzie said, “so fond are the Mandanes of putrid meat that they bury animals whole in the winter for consumption of the Spring.”

I would love to know what kind of microbiome people have that can eat putrid meat. Or perhaps we all have that ability :)

[1] https://centerofthewest.org/2017/08/01/mandan-strong-spirits...

Re: What Happened to Ancient Megafauna?

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There's a real danger in getting misinformation from YouTube channels. The Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis has been extensively refuted multiple times. The latest such paper ( https://doi.org/10.1016/j.earscirev.2023.104502 ) is pretty exhaustive in exploring the history of these ideas and how they fall short.

You clearly didn't even take a look. Zamora is not a run of the mill YouTube loony but a published academic. I'll look at the paper you linked, but you should look at Zamora's papers too.

I only see one paper linked on the channel, which is a substandard paper in a low impact journal. Beyond that, his website documenting his independent research also includes sections on the occult and psychic phenomena. What did I miss?

Re: What Happened to Ancient Megafauna?

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Wild hogs are not megafauna. It would probably be equally difficult to hunt squirrels into extinction.

Seems like there isn’t a strong definition for “megafauna.” In zoology, megafauna (from Greek μέγας megas "large" and Neo-Latin fauna "animal life") are large animals. The precise definition of the term varies widely, though a common threshold is approximately 45 kilograms (99 lb), with other thresholds as low as 10 kilograms (22 lb) or as high as 1,000 kilograms (2,200 lb). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megafauna

Whatever the definition, I am confident wild hogs and squirrels are not megafauna.
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