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Re: Why I left Google

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Post by jpgvm »

ggm wrote: post #2

A management training course I took 20 years ago said when your personal values were out of step with the company then you had to leave for your own mental health. I've thought about that a lot since.

This had been eating at me for a while before I eventually got fired for essentially being burntout and unproductive. I thought I could persevere through it as the companies values changed to no longer match my own, but I couldn't.

It's better to leave as long as that option is available to you.

Re: Why I left Google

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Post by Mistletoe »

UmYeahNo wrote: post #9
rexpop wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman What that management training course said is true only in a world without camaraderie, solidarity, and collegiality. I wonder if "out of step with the company" necessarily means your peers and colleagues…

If you love your coworkers, but hate your company's mission, should you stay or leave?

Leave. I’ve never known employees to override the company. More likely you are all a bunch of good guys committing war crimes together. Is that much better?

Re: Why I left Google

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Post by starspangled »

Narhem wrote: post #8
starspangled wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does borderline holding a gun to your head actually look like?

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I don't think I would because it's quite vague and metaphorical. But it may not even happen to me, certainly not by Google because I'd never work for them. Hence my question...

Re: Why I left Google

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Post by rexpop »

UmYeahNo wrote: post #9
rexpop wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman What that management training course said is true only in a world without camaraderie, solidarity, and collegiality. I wonder if "out of step with the company" necessarily means your peers and colleagues…

If you love your coworkers, but hate your company's mission, should you stay or leave?

You should probably leave, because odds are good they're not thinking the same way you're thinking. The mutual aspect is critical; it's a Prisoner's Dilemma.

A society of constant, unthinking defectors, on the other hand, is unsustainable.

Re: Why I left Google

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Post by thfuran »

rexpop wrote: post #4
ggm wrote: post #2

A management training course I took 20 years ago said when your personal values were out of step with the company then you had to leave for your own mental health. I've thought about that a lot since.

> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman What that management training course said is true only in a world without camaraderie, solidarity, and collegiality. I wonder if "out of step with the company" necessarily means your peers and colleagues…

That quote says nothing about where happiness or health lies.

Re: Why I left Google

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

UmYeahNo wrote: post #9
rexpop wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman What that management training course said is true only in a world without camaraderie, solidarity, and collegiality. I wonder if "out of step with the company" necessarily means your peers and colleagues…

If you love your coworkers, but hate your company's mission, should you stay or leave?

You can always hang out with them if you're all in the same area. My experience has been that as long as you filter for good work culture when applying for jobs you'll find a place with good coworkers.
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