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Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Re: Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Post by willcipriano »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #43
toomuchtodo wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheaper not to have them and risk the outsized long term financial obligation. ~43% of first marriages fail, ~60% of second marriages, ~73% third marriages. Roughly half of all children will see the parents’ marriage fail or them separate (per the CDC).

Those numbers are a lot lower for people whose first marriage is in their 30s and/or those who are financially stable. (Each of those ~halves the risk of divorce).

> financially stable

> halves the risk of divorce

For men, becoming unemployed more than doubles your chance of divorce. This effect is not seen for women.

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Post by wredue »

beaglesss wrote: post #37
wredue wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah okay. Elders go to war, or clean up nuclear disasters to save youth from it. Your hot take: Kill granny so I can get my nails done and eat at a restaurant.

I doubt my under 5 year old knew much beyond she couldn't as easily socialize at a point in time where it was foundational. Sure she'd have been upset if granny died but I don't think the sacrifice calculus of that registered for her level of happiness, all she really understood was being couped up a bit more than she might have otherwise been. Whether anything we did actually saved grandma is of course speculative.

It isn’t “speculative”. This is, in fact, measurable. Countries with worse action resulted in higher deaths.

More people having access to the care they needed in hospitals undoubtedly saved lives.

Keep drinking that rich people coolaide though. One day, you’ll definitely be rich.

Re: Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Post by wredue »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #42
wredue wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah okay. Elders go to war, or clean up nuclear disasters to save youth from it. Your hot take: Kill granny so I can get my nails done and eat at a restaurant.

Lt governor of Texas basically said this as an old guy and his old voters who voted for him loved it! If old people want to vote for the day of the pillow, why stop them?

Well. Yeah. They thought Covid was funny while blue states were disproportionately impacted early on.

Then blue states took action while red one did not. Red states all of a sudden dominated per capita impact. Only when their voters were dropping like flies did they suddenly about face. Except that they already latched on to conspiracy theory so swinging the base was difficult. There are still people (op) who lie and state that lockdown did nothing, even after their god emperor did a 180. This is why latching on to fake news and conspiracy to rile people up is dangerous.

Re: Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Post by sirspacey »

dymk wrote: post #38
beaglesss wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Child support actually is a transfer payment to the custodial parent with no check any of it goes to the child, 'child support' is a misnomer like 'patriot act'. Taking care of the child is a separate consideration, it can be spent on the kids, shoes, or a case of jack daniels.

Then you can take your ex to court and get custody. It’s not like this situation wasn’t considered.

It is not considered. Custody and child support are two separate matters and judges are not allowed to consider child support (its payment or its use) as a part of their decision on custody, per federal law.

The custody system does not work at all how you’d intuitively guess. Courts do not put the children with “the best parent.” I’ve so many friends who are in anguish because their children are abused by the custodial parent and the courts refuse to take any action. 90%+ of all custody appeal requests are denied without being heard.

Assuming our custody system is reasonable, fair, or expeditious is a luxury only had by those who have never been at its mercy.

Re: Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Post by ASalazarMX »

AlbertCory wrote: post #46

Comparing eras' difficulties is ultimately meaningless. When you're an adolescent, everything is new and for the first time (more or less). You have nothing to compare it to. Every decision you make has the potential to shape your entire life, except you don't know which ones. Nothing will ever feel like that again. Everything else is just a footnote.

Young adults can also be viewed as old adolescents. They want to be treated like adults, but need someone to care of them like kids. It's not a happy period for any generation.

Re: Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Post by AlbertCory »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #75
AlbertCory wrote: post #46

Comparing eras' difficulties is ultimately meaningless. When you're an adolescent, everything is new and for the first time (more or less). You have nothing to compare it to. Every decision you make has the potential to shape your entire life, except you don't know which ones. Nothing will ever feel like that again. Everything else is just a footnote.

Young adults can also be viewed as old adolescents. They want to be treated like adults, but need someone to care of them like kids. It's not a happy period for any generation.

that can be true, but doesn't obviate what I said.

Hardly anyone thinks it's wonderful at the time. Many people look back on it with fondness ("youth is wasted on the young").

Assuming some other generation had it wonderful is silly. They had their own worries.

Re: Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times

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Post by toomuchtodo »

willcipriano wrote: post #71
bryanlarsen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those numbers are a lot lower for people whose first marriage is in their 30s and/or those who are financially stable. (Each of those ~halves the risk of divorce).

> financially stable > halves the risk of divorce For men, becoming unemployed more than doubles your chance of divorce. This effect is not seen for women.

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323934884_Why_does_... | https://doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.32674.12489

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-28/don-t-bla... | https://archive.today/5f7hF

https://www.asanet.org/wp-content/uploads/attach/journals/au...

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