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Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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What's bizarre is that this guy says that tracking down this kid (who btw didn't try to hide at all) made him a "legend" at Pokemon. Quote from the article: "Which was fantastic. Absolutely baked my legend in at Pokémon for like five years." Don McGowan is a legend though, a legendary asshole for being proud of bullying a curious kid that was poking around in legally obtained game-files.

I dunno. I usually read HN comments before the article, so I know what to look out for when reading it. But that's not the tone I'm getting here. >So I called his mom and said, ‘Listen, I wanted to tell you some things that Andrew is doing on the computer.’ She says, ‘So you’re saying he hacked your game.’ And I hear in the background: ‘I didn’t hack anything!’ I start describing it more technically. She says, ‘Is th…

> this was a win all around

No.

This kid did nothing wrong.

Yet he still felt the need to say these words:

> I now know what I did was wrong, and I’ll never do it again.

He lost some of his dignity that day. He was made to submit. To some rich corporation's will. Despite probably having zero obligation to do so.

I couldn't care less what your job is or what "results" your employer wants out of you. If you do what this guy did, you suck.

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

#73
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's even worse that this asshole was legally correct, of course he was, one of the bad laws is the passage of DMCA which bans circumventing digital protections. That's how you get bullshit like DVD Jon who was accused of trespassing on his own computer.

a) DMCA does not apply the same to all countries b) With the way politics is going in USA I am not optimistic about DMCA reform until the heat-death of the universe.

I named the DMCA because that was likely to be most recognizable by our most esteemed readers but fine I will elaborate how this shit is everywhere.

In December 1996, the World Intellectual Property Organization adopted the WIPO Copyright Treaty which is principally aimed at adapting the legal paradigm of copyrights to new technology. Article 11 of the WCT obligates “contracting parties to provide adequate legal protection and effective legal remedies against the circumvention of effective technological measures that are used by authors in connection with the exercise of their rights under this Treaty or the Berne Convention and that restrict acts, in respect of their works, which are not authorized by the authors concerned or permitted by law.”

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno. I usually read HN comments before the article, so I know what to look out for when reading it. But that's not the tone I'm getting here. >So I called his mom and said, ‘Listen, I wanted to tell you some things that Andrew is doing on the computer.’ She says, ‘So you’re saying he hacked your game.’ And I hear in the background: ‘I didn’t hack anything!’ I start describing it more technically. She says, ‘Is th…

> this was a win all around No. This kid did nothing wrong. Yet he still felt the need to say these words: > I now know what I did was wrong, and I’ll never do it again. He lost some of his dignity that day. He was made to submit. To some rich corporation's will. Despite probably having zero obligation to do so. I couldn't care less what your job is or what "results" your employer wants out of you. If you do what thi…

I wish I had more upvotes to give you.

A company made a mistake. A kid found out. So the company sicks the lawyers on the kid? Teaches the kid to not be curious? Does he really believe kids should only sit down and mindlessly consume content,only when a bigcorp dictates it, never walking a millimeter from the path? And then the bastard lawyer brags about it?

My blood boils just reading this. I hope that corporate creep never has any kids of his own.

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

#76
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's even worse that this asshole was legally correct, of course he was, one of the bad laws is the passage of DMCA which bans circumventing digital protections. That's how you get bullshit like DVD Jon who was accused of trespassing on his own computer.

What digital protections did the kid circumvent? As far as I can tell he just dumped the game's graphics and found a previously unknown creature among the results. No circumvention of anything whatsoever, just direct access to the data. If the corporations don't want stuff like this to be found, they should try not putting it into the game in the first place. I guess copyright monopolists who are delusional enough to…

it was protected by rot26 encryption!

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

#77
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno. I usually read HN comments before the article, so I know what to look out for when reading it. But that's not the tone I'm getting here. >So I called his mom and said, ‘Listen, I wanted to tell you some things that Andrew is doing on the computer.’ She says, ‘So you’re saying he hacked your game.’ And I hear in the background: ‘I didn’t hack anything!’ I start describing it more technically. She says, ‘Is th…

> this was a win all around No. This kid did nothing wrong. Yet he still felt the need to say these words: > I now know what I did was wrong, and I’ll never do it again. He lost some of his dignity that day. He was made to submit. To some rich corporation's will. Despite probably having zero obligation to do so. I couldn't care less what your job is or what "results" your employer wants out of you. If you do what thi…

society is becoming enshittified by the majority of people giving a pass to people doing banal, evil stuff constantly because it is "their job."

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

#78

What's bizarre is that this guy says that tracking down this kid (who btw didn't try to hide at all) made him a "legend" at Pokemon. Quote from the article: "Which was fantastic. Absolutely baked my legend in at Pokémon for like five years." Don McGowan is a legend though, a legendary asshole for being proud of bullying a curious kid that was poking around in legally obtained game-files.

Chances are the guy was just horrible at reading the room and people made fun of him for like five years.

Like that cop in The Wire who was so proud he "caught the Unabomber" and McNulty goes "didn't his brother turn him in?"

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

#79
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a) DMCA does not apply the same to all countries b) With the way politics is going in USA I am not optimistic about DMCA reform until the heat-death of the universe.

I named the DMCA because that was likely to be most recognizable by our most esteemed readers but fine I will elaborate how this shit is everywhere. In December 1996, the World Intellectual Property Organization adopted the WIPO Copyright Treaty which is principally aimed at adapting the legal paradigm of copyrights to new technology. Article 11 of the WCT obligates “contracting parties to provide adequate legal prot…

> I named the DMCA because that was likely to be most recognizable by our most esteemed readers but fine I will elaborate how this shit is everywhere.

Yes. But not all countries interpret the restrictions on fair-use as aggressively as DMCA/1201 does.

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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Unfortunately there is no lawful way to penalize someone for being an absolute piece of shit, since being a piece of shit is totally legal. Shame doesn’t work: people don’t even feel or respond to shame anymore. You can’t punch them, even if they deserve it. So lawyers like this just live their shitty lives, threatening children and sleeping soundly at night on mattresses stuffed with $100 bills.

This guy’s actions are 100% in line with Nintendo’s policies. They actively hate their fans. There is a legal way to punish Nintendo: Stop giving them money, and make sure everyone knows that the reason why is that you don’t do business with bullies.

Boycotts almost never work. Yet, somehow we keep reaching for that ineffective tool whenever the discussion of corporate bad behavior comes up. Vote With Your Wallet sounds nice, but just doesn't actually work in reality.
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