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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by matthewsinclair »

1oooqooq wrote: post #148
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, what's going on here? Is this Firefox blocking some path/subdomain/cookie on x.com because it's used by their tracking widget, but the same is also used by some important part of the site itself, so it's essentially a false positive and Mozilla need to adjust the filter to be more specific? Or is the site detecting the ad blocker and purposely refusing to load?

malicious action on xitter. just like google forcing browsers to send full referrer cross domain by strong arming w3c with chrome. because their business model depends on full referrer cross domain. xitter decided it's business model depends on third party cookies. so they're strong arming users into enabling it on the browser globally. everything is simple. there's no complex technological reason for any of those th…

> Xitter

I fully endorse this use. I’ve been using it myself for some time. I’m so sick of newspapers writing “X (formerly Twitter)” everywhere. And “Xitter” has all of the right connotations for the cess pit that xitter has become.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by newzisforsukas »

Kiro wrote: post #126
newzisforsukas wrote: post #66

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> para-social parasocial* Many don't follow people, just institutions and publications for news.

"Para-social" is fine and in fact how it was written when it was coined in 1956.

Sure, although, not the common modern spelling.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by gchamonlive »

db48x wrote: post #87
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, what's going on here? Is this Firefox blocking some path/subdomain/cookie on x.com because it's used by their tracking widget, but the same is also used by some important part of the site itself, so it's essentially a false positive and Mozilla need to adjust the filter to be more specific? Or is the site detecting the ad blocker and purposely refusing to load?

Twitter loads some javascript file from edgecastcdn.net and twimg.com. The browser blocks these loads because they are from third–party domains which is a big risk. Loading a script from a third party exposes anything secret or private on the page to the third party. Of course twimg.com is _probably_ owned and operated by Twitter, but it could be anyone. They’re not even registered through the same registrar, they ha…

Kinda like the same issue with running zoom in browser and not having a persistent login session

https://devforum.zoom.us/t/stay-signed-in-doesnt/63329/3

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by moomin »

I feel like this is sheer incompetence on Twitter’s part. Some ad blocker I have on my iPhone stops Twitter from working and has for several months. It hasn’t prevented

* Me seeing adverts on Twitter * Me being tracked by Twitter.

It’s yet another half-assed change in Twitter and it turns out that the technical incompetence of it has been my final straw. I’ve been trying to kick the habit for years but Twitter have finally done the job for me.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by timeon »

plonk wrote: post #86
manuelmoreale wrote: post #82

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I’m gonna take your words at face value and ask you a question: what do you gain in gettin access to that news a few minutes in advance?

Other media is frustrating because it's always heavily filtered, has an agenda, and always talks like a PR release. It's like they're trying to keep some image of a respectable paper and so have to write in that stupid title - subtitle that repeats the title - first paragraph that repeats the subtitle - 30 paragraphs in complete disorder, half of which are a waste of time format Edit: someone on Twitter obviously als…

Algorithmic social media streams are the actual Virtual Reality. The algorithm has agenda by design to create engagement. Another attribute of social media is that you are consuming information through personas not just some faceless article. This creates emotional attachment that divorces you from evaluating information in unbiased way.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by manuelmoreale »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #174
manuelmoreale wrote: post #119

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Agree but if I have to bet on one or the other I'm not putting my money on the Twitter user. And you can apply the same reasoning to literally everything. You know nothing about this random doctor who's going to perform surgery. Should you perhaps let some other random guy on twitter that claims to be a surgeon do it? After all even doctors from "most respected" universities made some stupid mistakes. It's good to be…

> Agree but if I have to bet on one or the other I'm not putting my money on the Twitter user. Twitter has millions of users. Some of them are actually trustworthy sources, moreso than conflicted profit-seeking media outlets. In particular, a lot of them are subject matter experts in a particular field, instead of generalists trying to summarize something they don't really understand or put a partisan spin on it. The…

I don’t disagree with your assessment.

But would you agree that if we were to pluck people at random from the journalists population and from the Twitter user base, the first group has a higher probability of returning someone who’s trustworthy when it comes to news reporting?

I’m not saying there aren’t trustworthy people on Twitter. After all there’s plenty of journalists. But there’s also plenty of shitposters. And random people spewing nonsense.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by renonce »

pbzm wrote: post #171

We've fixed this issue on the Firefox side ~2 months ago. Here is the bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1897379 It's possible that you have an extension installed that blocks e.g. Twitter's CDN. We've seen issues like that with the Disconnect Firefox extension.

So if I understand correctly, this puts x.com under the same entity as twitter.com so third party cookies are allowed between x.com and other twitter sites?

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by Angostura »

userbinator wrote: post #162
db48x wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter loads some javascript file from edgecastcdn.net and twimg.com. The browser blocks these loads because they are from third–party domains which is a big risk. Loading a script from a third party exposes anything secret or private on the page to the third party. Of course twimg.com is _probably_ owned and operated by Twitter, but it could be anyone. They’re not even registered through the same registrar, they ha…

Of course twimg.com is _probably_ owned and operated by Twitter. https://www.whois.com/whois/twimg.com Looking at the registrant email confirms that it is. I've seen the twimg domain a lot as it's used for their images (pbs.twimg.com) too.

It’s certainly owned by them at the moment

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by quectophoton »

btreecat wrote: post #28

Hey, remember that time you didn't obsess over a bunch of para-social relationships on a platform that monetizes your attention? The only thing keeping twitter relevant is the fact that you keep opening the website/app.

> The only thing keeping twitter relevant is the fact that you keep opening the website/app.

It's still big on anime-style artists, sadly. At least in my bubble.

Mastodon had its chance, MissKey had its chance, BlueSky[1] had its chance, but none caught on.

Trying to commission good anime-style art without having to create a Xitter account has been difficult[2] for a while. Last time I searched, artists either said "DM me on Twitter", or had an email address but weren't open to comms at that moment.

Nowadays there's a few invite-only platforms (owned by shady companies) that makes all this easier, but only works if the artist has been invited there already.

[1]: While writing this I couldn't even remember this name and had to pause ~20-30 seconds until it came to me.

[2]: My search was limited to "artists who also stream" to reduce the chance of scams, so that filtered out a lot from the beginning.

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