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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by troupo »

blfr wrote: post #73
OhMeadhbh wrote: post #26

So I get strict tracking protection and I can't open Twitter, no matter how hard I try? I'm not sure I see the downside.

Twitter is by far the best source of news and analysis currently. Outpaced only in some areas by niche, usually also crowd-sourced, sites like HN. A week ago twitter had pictures and videos from several angles of assasination attempt on Trump when media still reported "an incident." The difference is wild. Ditching twitter is like going back from old-school news tv to a telegraph. Anyway, I have strict tracking prote…

> Twitter is by far the best source of news and analysis currently.

It no longer is that. The "For You" algorithm is just... bad. You get worse news than from the worst of the most biased/filtered/uncaring/whatever-your-definition-of-bad-is media.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by jrflowers »

blfr wrote: post #85
manuelmoreale wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m gonna take your words at face value and ask you a question: what do you gain in gettin access to that news a few minutes in advance?

First, it was hours. Second, I'm there more for the tpot/schizo/alternative content. Most importantly though, it's not just a couple hours of difference, but the content is different: raw, with live comments (from the people you follow pulled up), memes, etc. It's the vibe you used to find on usenet and then blogosphere.

What is schizo content

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by Barrin92 »

blfr wrote: post #73
OhMeadhbh wrote: post #26

So I get strict tracking protection and I can't open Twitter, no matter how hard I try? I'm not sure I see the downside.

Twitter is by far the best source of news and analysis currently. Outpaced only in some areas by niche, usually also crowd-sourced, sites like HN. A week ago twitter had pictures and videos from several angles of assasination attempt on Trump when media still reported "an incident." The difference is wild. Ditching twitter is like going back from old-school news tv to a telegraph. Anyway, I have strict tracking prote…

> when media still reported "an incident." The difference is wild.

The difference is that the media goes to some lengths to make sure the footage they're showing is actually real. Every day on Twitter I see people posting alleged war footage from different conflict zones of the world, and in a non trivial, sometimes majority of cases it turns out the footage is either fake or from some unrelated conflict, or years old but presented as new. The person pointing that out usually has a tenth of the interactions than the original poster.

Twitter is neither providing analysis or news but simply the media equivalent of pornography.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by [deleted] »

db48x wrote: post #87
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, what's going on here? Is this Firefox blocking some path/subdomain/cookie on x.com because it's used by their tracking widget, but the same is also used by some important part of the site itself, so it's essentially a false positive and Mozilla need to adjust the filter to be more specific? Or is the site detecting the ad blocker and purposely refusing to load?

Twitter loads some javascript file from edgecastcdn.net and twimg.com. The browser blocks these loads because they are from third–party domains which is a big risk. Loading a script from a third party exposes anything secret or private on the page to the third party. Of course twimg.com is _probably_ owned and operated by Twitter, but it could be anyone. They’re not even registered through the same registrar, they ha…

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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by Sammi »

plonk wrote: post #133
manuelmoreale wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing, I agree. But also, you do know that the various news sites have an agenda. It's a fact. And the way you work around it is by reading from multiple sources that have different agendas and form your own opinion based on that. The random Twitter user though? Who the fuck knows. He might be in just for the lols. Maybe they're just bored. Maybe they're actually knowledgeable. You just don't know.

Some are pretty verifiable accounts from actual academics, CTOs, journalists, that's the ones I'm interested in. You can get multiple sources on one website with fewer filters, that's what makes it a good source

That's what actually makes it a source :) You get the news from the horse's mouth.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by 1oooqooq »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #47
drooopy wrote: post #8

Strict tracking in firefox blocks the following: Social media trackers, Cross-site cookies in all windows, Tracking content in all windows, Cryptominers, Known and suspected fingerprinters. I wouldn't wanna use a site that relies on any of the above to function anyway.

The question is, what's going on here? Is this Firefox blocking some path/subdomain/cookie on x.com because it's used by their tracking widget, but the same is also used by some important part of the site itself, so it's essentially a false positive and Mozilla need to adjust the filter to be more specific? Or is the site detecting the ad blocker and purposely refusing to load?

malicious action on xitter.

just like google forcing browsers to send full referrer cross domain by strong arming w3c with chrome. because their business model depends on full referrer cross domain.

xitter decided it's business model depends on third party cookies. so they're strong arming users into enabling it on the browser globally.

everything is simple. there's no complex technological reason for any of those things. it's all access to your data and money.

the browser is the battle ground and they win every single time.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by Sammi »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #92
jak2k wrote: post #49

There is a solution, but don't use it, use mastodon: In the settings, enable Firefox containers. This allows you to seperate the cookies of X from all other sites. Also install uBlockOrigin to block all trackers on X itself.

Actually, don't use Mastodon either, it's full of the same low quality commentary that you find on Twitter.

Mastodon doesn't have a fraction of the ground sources that Twitter has. You go to Twitter because that's where the people who know shit and tell you about shit are. It has nothing to do with Twitter itself. It's just network effects.

I get why you're annoyed at Twitter (Elon) - I am too, and I still call it Twitter - but there just doesn't exist anything like Twitter. It's the only place where you can ask CEOs and CTOs questions directly. Where you can learn about what is actually happening on the ground in Ukraine from first hand reports from people who are there. Where you hear subject matter experts debating strongly in favor and against all matter of topics. It's sad that it's the only place like it, but it is.

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