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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by stingraycharles »

dbg31415 wrote: post #50
stingraycharles wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but now I can’t convince my family to use Firefox because it makes part of the internet unusable which is a deal breaker to them. Doesn’t matter if it’s the sites that are the problem, Firefox has lost momentum to such a degree that sites don’t care anymore. So they should tread carefully with features like this.

Yup. This is correct. Firefox taking a hard nose approach here makes it impossible to use this on parents / grandparents computers to help keep them safe. I don’t mind losing Twitter… but I can’t speak for others in my family. Just sucks. But on popular sites that run blockers, there should be like a little pop-up that says, “Give me access, and let this dumpster fire burn.”

I think back in the day when DRM was being introduced, Firefox refused to implement it, which caused many people to just switch to Chrome or Internet Explorer.

So even when they still had a considerable market share, these kind of stances may actually be detrimental to their user base.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by indulona »

Ooooooh, now this is funny. I thought twitter just garden-walled itself like all the social networks do to be essentially intranet. I've not been on twitter since(since, you know, I can't see anything). Now i learn it is a cookie issue. Haha, well. Nothing o value was lost.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by plonk »

manuelmoreale wrote: post #96
plonk wrote: post #86

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Other media is frustrating because it's always heavily filtered, has an agenda, and always talks like a PR release. It's like they're trying to keep some image of a respectable paper and so have to write in that stupid title - subtitle that repeats the title - first paragraph that repeats the subtitle - 30 paragraphs in complete disorder, half of which are a waste of time format Edit: someone on Twitter obviously als…

Here's the thing, I agree. But also, you do know that the various news sites have an agenda. It's a fact. And the way you work around it is by reading from multiple sources that have different agendas and form your own opinion based on that. The random Twitter user though? Who the fuck knows. He might be in just for the lols. Maybe they're just bored. Maybe they're actually knowledgeable. You just don't know.

Some are pretty verifiable accounts from actual academics, CTOs, journalists, that's the ones I'm interested in. You can get multiple sources on one website with fewer filters, that's what makes it a good source

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

b0ner_t0ner wrote: post #79

Just redirect to Nitter: // ==UserScript== // @name Redirect to Nitter // @version 1.0 // @description Automatically redirect from twitter to nitter // @match *://twitter.com/* // @match *://x.com/* // @run-at document-start // ==/UserScript== (function() { const nitterInstance = 'nitter.poast.org' location.href = `https://${nitterInstance}` + location.pathname // + '&' + location.search })();

For clients without Javascript interpreters I use a local forward proxy for redirects. I do not like large, graphical browsers.

Note nitter.poast.org will no longer accept HTTP/1.0. One can also use elon.cucked.me as alternative name.

If omit a browser-like user-agent string, then will hit a non-Google CAPTCHA and receive a session cookie.

Nevertheless, the last remaining "Nitter" instance is still going strong.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by plonk »

jajko wrote: post #125
manuelmoreale wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing, I agree. But also, you do know that the various news sites have an agenda. It's a fact. And the way you work around it is by reading from multiple sources that have different agendas and form your own opinion based on that. The random Twitter user though? Who the fuck knows. He might be in just for the lols. Maybe they're just bored. Maybe they're actually knowledgeable. You just don't know.

The mental effect of 'its different from mainstream, thus better and look at me how clever I am for finding it out 5 minutes before most of group'. Teenagers love to position themselves in such roles due to insecurities, although I don't think anybody is completely immune to this. Still, don't get why regular folks are so obsessed with getting desperately the news first, unless you ie trade on it or work for Reuters.…

> The mental effect of 'its different from mainstream, thus better and look at me how clever I am for finding it out 5 minutes before most of group'.

It's not because of lag time, and it's not because it's different from mainstream, it's due to growing frustration with older media that I slowly developed before I even knew about Twitter and my experience following interesting people on there. It's gotten worse since Musk, some have moved to bsky or mastodon, but it's still the best source for me.

I understand your point of view but I don't find your assumption very charitable, there are real reasons for this that have been touched on.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by gorgoiler »

Unfortunately, the latest build of Firefox Focus for iOS — what ought to be Safari plus all of the good parts of Firefox’s tracker blocking — seems to now allow x.com to open. I’ve also started seeing ads where they were blocked before (e.g. theguardian.com.)

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by tialaramex »

MikeTheGreat wrote: post #111
EdwardDiego wrote: post #89

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Sorry, what's LTI?

"Learning Tools Interoperability": https://www.imsglobal.org/spec/lti/v1p3/ From the page: "The IMS Learning Tools Interoperability (LTI)® specification allows Learning Management Systems (LMS) or platforms to integrate remote tools and content in a standard way." If you haven't used an LMS ("Learning Management System") it's kinda like WordPress for teaching - teachers create course materials without needing to know…

I'm currently on leave but this (LTI) is what we do at work much of the time.

Typically LTI is used to add third party components (or in-house ones) to an LMS. For example we have our own Teams Integration, lecturers can make a Microsoft Team corresponding to any course they teach, their students can see the URL of the team if they've lost it but can't leave or create a team.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by _19qg »

plonk wrote: post #86
manuelmoreale wrote: post #82

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I’m gonna take your words at face value and ask you a question: what do you gain in gettin access to that news a few minutes in advance?

Other media is frustrating because it's always heavily filtered, has an agenda, and always talks like a PR release. It's like they're trying to keep some image of a respectable paper and so have to write in that stupid title - subtitle that repeats the title - first paragraph that repeats the subtitle - 30 paragraphs in complete disorder, half of which are a waste of time format Edit: someone on Twitter obviously als…

Literally the owner of Twitter/X has an agenda and lets his employees change the algorithms to his liking.

Twitter/X is filtered by algorithms selecting the contents to be visible.

It's now a rage machine, to amplify right-wing populist views.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by thesuavefactor »

Quothling wrote: post #122
quaintdev wrote: post #60

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Pretty sure this is sentiment of the crowd here. But I'm not sure if the general public will see it that way.

I think Twitter will probably remain popular for a long time, especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. That's not really the people I associate with, and it probably needs to be mentioned here that I'm Danish. Which matters because the sort of people who post right leaning stuff here are kind of your crazy uncle on Facebook kind of people. Which means that Danish Twitter is slowly bec…

I love this comment, you are absolutely right. If every country/government would use the fediverse to enable free speech, and maybe even promote it, that would be a big step forward.
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