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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by OhMeadhbh »

NewJazz wrote: post #80
blfr wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is by far the best source of news and analysis currently. Outpaced only in some areas by niche, usually also crowd-sourced, sites like HN. A week ago twitter had pictures and videos from several angles of assasination attempt on Trump when media still reported "an incident." The difference is wild. Ditching twitter is like going back from old-school news tv to a telegraph. Anyway, I have strict tracking prote…

So your definition of "best" news is fastest available?

everyone's got an angle, I suppose. getting your news 140 characters at a time is an odd angle, but sure, why not.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by EdwardDiego »

aydyn wrote: post #3
ranger_danger wrote: post #2

all x/twitter links have been login-walled for me for quite some time now, probably since around the time Elon took over, so I just stopped clicking any links or visiting the site entirely... since I literally can't if I wanted to anyways (I refuse to make an account and nitter stopped working).

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For the same reason I don't have a Medium account, a Substack account, a Guardian account, a Wired account etc.

I might pop in to read the content occasionally, but I'm not looking to interact with other users or comment on things.

I'd make an account if I did want to do so, but just to view content? Nah, why.

Any site that forces you to make an account to view content is doing it for their benefit, not yours.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by necovek »

eqvinox wrote: post #21
ranger_danger wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with respecting people's right to have opinions you don't like? Isn't that what everyone wanted?

Respect and endorsement are not the same thing. Also, when tolerance is the goal, there must be an intolerance against intolerance - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

I don't think it's that simple.

If majority is overly tolerant of vocal "jerks", some dissenting voices get self-censored due to not wanting to engage in such a discourse, effectively limiting their freedom of expression (the pressures they expect to experience if they express themselves freely are too much for them to handle).

Obviously, this does not stop other dissenting voices to be heard, but in practice, "jerks" have more persistence and thus end up "winning" by being more vocal and enduring.

So it's certainly a tricky balance to aim for, and there is really no "right" line to be drawn.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

#105

Post by EdwardDiego »

ranger_danger wrote: post #17
eqvinox wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, for one, don't make accounts on services with a hate speech rate as high as current Twitter. I'd consider an account an indirect endorsement.

What is wrong with respecting people's right to have opinions you don't like? Isn't that what everyone wanted?

What's wrong with respecting the commenter's right to boycott Twitter?

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by EdwardDiego »

jcranmer wrote: post #61
ranger_danger wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with respecting people's right to have opinions you don't like? Isn't that what everyone wanted?

The beef people have with Twitter after the Musk takeover is that it has objectively gotten worse at upholding free speech ideals, even as its new owner claims that doing so is one of his main reasons for taking over the social media company. Pre-takeover, the company was generally considered to be the best of the major outfits in standing up to censorious dipshit politicians [1], routinely challenging government att…

Also, the classic "cisgender is hate speech" thing Musk introduced is very far from free speech.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by makeitdouble »

blfr wrote: post #73
OhMeadhbh wrote: post #26

So I get strict tracking protection and I can't open Twitter, no matter how hard I try? I'm not sure I see the downside.

Twitter is by far the best source of news and analysis currently. Outpaced only in some areas by niche, usually also crowd-sourced, sites like HN. A week ago twitter had pictures and videos from several angles of assasination attempt on Trump when media still reported "an incident." The difference is wild. Ditching twitter is like going back from old-school news tv to a telegraph. Anyway, I have strict tracking prote…

Is it news if you have no idea if it's true or not ?

And I think it's all the more relevant as we can instantly generate plausible pictures and reporting only from vague knowledge of the circumstances.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

#108

Post by LastTrain »

plonk wrote: post #86
manuelmoreale wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m gonna take your words at face value and ask you a question: what do you gain in gettin access to that news a few minutes in advance?

Other media is frustrating because it's always heavily filtered, has an agenda, and always talks like a PR release. It's like they're trying to keep some image of a respectable paper and so have to write in that stupid title - subtitle that repeats the title - first paragraph that repeats the subtitle - 30 paragraphs in complete disorder, half of which are a waste of time format Edit: someone on Twitter obviously als…

There’s a whole opaque and agenda laden algorithm determining which “guy with credentials” opinions you see, and zero standards.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by walterbell »

db48x wrote: post #87
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, what's going on here? Is this Firefox blocking some path/subdomain/cookie on x.com because it's used by their tracking widget, but the same is also used by some important part of the site itself, so it's essentially a false positive and Mozilla need to adjust the filter to be more specific? Or is the site detecting the ad blocker and purposely refusing to load?

Twitter loads some javascript file from edgecastcdn.net and twimg.com. The browser blocks these loads because they are from third–party domains which is a big risk. Loading a script from a third party exposes anything secret or private on the page to the third party. Of course twimg.com is _probably_ owned and operated by Twitter, but it could be anyone. They’re not even registered through the same registrar, they ha…

Can users whitelist select domains that are "trusted"?

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by isodev »

blfr wrote: post #73
OhMeadhbh wrote: post #26

So I get strict tracking protection and I can't open Twitter, no matter how hard I try? I'm not sure I see the downside.

Twitter is by far the best source of news and analysis currently. Outpaced only in some areas by niche, usually also crowd-sourced, sites like HN. A week ago twitter had pictures and videos from several angles of assasination attempt on Trump when media still reported "an incident." The difference is wild. Ditching twitter is like going back from old-school news tv to a telegraph. Anyway, I have strict tracking prote…

There was an earthquake the other day, people were talking about it on both Mastodon and Bluesky, twitter didn’t even have a mention until after it was over.

Whatever it is on Twitter, it’s a very specific subset of news, usually the kind you also see on breaking news banners in other outlets. Twitter has long been abandoned by everyone of consequence.

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