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Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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not only allowing, but approving? they signed driver, right? linux also allows, by approval is decentralized

>by approval is decentralized Translation: it's up to whoever is the sysadmin is, which probably was responsible for crowdstrike being installed in the first place. Such "approval" would have made no difference in preventing this disaster.

how 8.5M devices got approval to install? may they came with hard to disable windows autoupdate?

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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It seems baffling that Microsoft is getting heat for this. They didn't cause the issue, a third party vendor's software did. Even if you were trying to make an argument of "if we had more diversity it wouldn't be as bad", shouldn't you be focusing on the EDR vendors rather than the OS vendor?

is not it the case that kernel drivers are signed and approved by microsoft?

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Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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It seems baffling that Microsoft is getting heat for this. They didn't cause the issue, a third party vendor's software did. Even if you were trying to make an argument of "if we had more diversity it wouldn't be as bad", shouldn't you be focusing on the EDR vendors rather than the OS vendor?

is not it the case that kernel drivers are signed and approved by microsoft?

I think it was essentially a data/config file that was corrupt not a new driver kernel. nothing really to be signed and approved by mircosoft.

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>by approval is decentralized Translation: it's up to whoever is the sysadmin is, which probably was responsible for crowdstrike being installed in the first place. Such "approval" would have made no difference in preventing this disaster.

how 8.5M devices got approval to install? may they came with hard to disable windows autoupdate?

gpt said it could be updated by ms https://chatgpt.com/share/8eca1a08-062f-4474-9310-95444bab67...

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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Would the disaster have been prevented if there was no code signing? Or are you arguing that Microsoft should scrutinize code even harder?

Microsoft isn’t scrutinizing this code, at all, right? It’s not like they’re doing code reviews of every vendor that does code signing in Windows.

https://chatgpt.com/share/8eca1a08-062f-4474-9310-95444bab67...

said ms tests drivers

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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post #6

It seems baffling that Microsoft is getting heat for this. They didn't cause the issue, a third party vendor's software did. Even if you were trying to make an argument of "if we had more diversity it wouldn't be as bad", shouldn't you be focusing on the EDR vendors rather than the OS vendor?

Regulators who may not understand the difference between an OS and a driver.

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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Microsoft's culpability lies in the fact that their OS is still ridiculously brittle. How it can't seem to manage to be able to automatically roll back changes from something as serious as a kernel change is ludicrous.

It's CrowdStrike's fault that the kernel was faulty. It's Microsoft's fault that it caused a never ending bootloop that needed manual intervention to fix.

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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post #6

It seems baffling that Microsoft is getting heat for this. They didn't cause the issue, a third party vendor's software did. Even if you were trying to make an argument of "if we had more diversity it wouldn't be as bad", shouldn't you be focusing on the EDR vendors rather than the OS vendor?

So normies in governments are finally seeing the issues, it’s for the wrong reason indeed, but is it though? It could have been an MS trip up and then it may have been worse even…

Re: Microsoft's global sprawl under fire from regulators after Windows outage

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post #6

It seems baffling that Microsoft is getting heat for this. They didn't cause the issue, a third party vendor's software did. Even if you were trying to make an argument of "if we had more diversity it wouldn't be as bad", shouldn't you be focusing on the EDR vendors rather than the OS vendor?

Microsoft are signing kernel drivers for over-the-air updates pushed by vendors.

Whilst telling their corporate customers that using Microsoft InTune will allow them to be in full control of their configuration management.

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