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Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

vinnyvichy wrote: post #131
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #130

It is really odd to me that Bangladesh even exists as a nation, and that it is an officially Islamic nation. This country was formed as a result of the partition of India, where the British empire left a mess on their way out by subdividing India into what is now Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. But really these countries should be recombined into India - their status as religious ethnostates is unacceptable in the m…

Mostly under the (non-)guidance of one Earl Mountbatten of Burma, the one described as "every inch the King". https://read.dukeupress.edu/cssaame/article/25/1/89/151/Gene...

I am not very familiar with the backstory here. Are you saying one person pushed for this? I assumed it was a purposeful strategy of the crown, for a departing colonizer (Britain) to weaken a former vassal state that might otherwise seek revenge for hundreds of years of colonial rule.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

nradov wrote: post #139
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #130

It is really odd to me that Bangladesh even exists as a nation, and that it is an officially Islamic nation. This country was formed as a result of the partition of India, where the British empire left a mess on their way out by subdividing India into what is now Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. But really these countries should be recombined into India - their status as religious ethnostates is unacceptable in the m…

I doubt that most Indians would want to be "recombined" with Pakistan and Bangladesh. What's in it for them?

I assume claiming back their ancestral land lost to colonizers, much like what native Americans would desire.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by anukin »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #113
david_shi wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reminds me a lot of the Red Guards - the greatest disaster could come from the party losing control of these groups.

The original Indian and Pakistani founders had Soviet education and influences. Moreover the Comintern was one of the only fora at the time that was openly in support of decolonization. The similarities aren't coincidental.

Father of nation of both India and Pakistan were educated in England under English traditions.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

anukin wrote: post #143
Karrot_Kream wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original Indian and Pakistani founders had Soviet education and influences. Moreover the Comintern was one of the only fora at the time that was openly in support of decolonization. The similarities aren't coincidental.

Father of nation of both India and Pakistan were educated in England under English traditions.

Sorry didn't mean to imply Nehru, Gandhi, or Jinna were educated in the Soviet Union. Just that revolutionaries and early Communist Party leaders who were influential to independence were influenced by or spent time in the Soviet Union.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by petre »

trilbyglens wrote: post #110
jamal-kumar wrote: post #2

I think it's worth noting why this is happening. The country has been giving out degrees and jobs to people who instead of working and studying hard, to descendants of veterans in the country's war against pakistan, and this level of nepotism has been going on since the 70s which as you can easily imagine is not great for those who see the value in getting these "basic livelihood for hard work" things. So when people…

Country probably entirely underwater in the next 50 years anyways....

So its inhabitants need to be subjected to injustices for another 50 years?

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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observationist wrote: post #91

"Bangladesh imposes a near total internet shutdown to stifle coverage and online engagement with police killings at student protest" Calling things what they are instead of tortuously passive and neutral descriptions should be standard. The headline sounds like it's describing two separate things that just coincidentally happen to be occurring at the same time.

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Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by jc_765 »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #142
nradov wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that most Indians would want to be "recombined" with Pakistan and Bangladesh. What's in it for them?

I assume claiming back their ancestral land lost to colonizers, much like what native Americans would desire.

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Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by alephnerd »

rayiner wrote: post #138
alephnerd wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now the fascist gov has closed all internet I agree that Sheikh Hasina is extremely authoritarian and corrupt dictator but imo JeI are the actual fascists, and the BNP has absolutely been enabling them. That said, I agree with you that Hasina's authoritarianism needs to end. Ideally all these old fossils (Hasina, Zia, Rahman, etc) need to be purged and the actual youth (who are the majority of Bangladesh) get a cha…

That’s a terrible idea and would set Bangladesh back generations. Hasina is authoritarian, but Bangladeshis need someone like her to run such a disorderly population. She’s not Lee Kuan Yew, but she’s the best in that direction Bangladesh can hope for. And a third-rate copy of LKY is a hell of a lot better than whatever Islamic socialist would replace her.

Idk why you're downvoted, but that aside I'm not sure about your thesis.

It's kinda tough following Desi politics tbh - you want to be honest about ideals, but the reality is everyone in the home country is "Chust".

Idk, if Sheikh Hasina was a LKY or even a Park Cheung He then the protests seen the past week wouldn't have happened.

I guess the BAP is now facing the Zhao question (or Indira in Tughlabad Distict in 1976) - to shoot or not shoot. Either way India, China, Russia, and the Gulf will continue to give her and the BAP sanction relief because she's built strong relations with everyone.

I'm not Muslim so I automatically lean more towards Hasina (Zia's enabling of the JeI is a dealbreaker and would automatically result in a civil war or even Indian intervention if she became PM), but if she decided to remain quasi-democratic she cannot find a middle ground. Either she becomes a full blown authoritarian or she has to cede power. A Hybrid Regime is inherently unstable.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by vinnyvichy »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #141
vinnyvichy wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly under the (non-)guidance of one Earl Mountbatten of Burma, the one described as "every inch the King". https://read.dukeupress.edu/cssaame/article/25/1/89/151/Gene...

I am not very familiar with the backstory here. Are you saying one person pushed for this? I assumed it was a purposeful strategy of the crown, for a departing colonizer (Britain) to weaken a former vassal state that might otherwise seek revenge for hundreds of years of colonial rule.

He didn't push for this, but he was tasked to see Partition through, and he bungled the job, hence "non- guidance". Maybe no fault of his, but you can get a deeper nuance of the larger issues at play by thinking about how he personally could have otherwise done an okay job. Taking the maxim to not assume malice to its pedantic conclusion. Plus, it's easier to think about a constrained space of individual actions and intentions even if the wider politics are so complex.

At that moment in time, Mountbatten was perhaps the personification of the Crown (and he would have known it)

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