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"Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

#101

Predictably most of the comments are about the android upgrade issues, but the solution is simple, people who care about these features buy a google device, which receives timely upgrades, is cheaper than an iphone, and has its own advantages (+disadvantages) over iphone hardware The people that dont care about these feature buy any random android and get this stuff later as the carriers catchup

"when" they catch up? I think you surely mean "in the unlikely event that they ever catch up or even provide/allow any update at all" If android is so "open" why do you have to pick a single device from a single manufacturer (even apple offers more options than the nexus lineup) if you want android that's really android and not raped by the handset manufacturer or the network operator?

When they catch up usually means when they upgrade their phone

You can pick whatever phone you want, and install whatever android you can get working on it if you want, if you want ota upgrades in a timely manner you need to pick a manufacturer / carrier that does that, which is only google devices at the moment, thats specifically because it is so open.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

#102

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I'm not saying that we've seen the last word in mobile operating systems, but neither iOS nor Android have made any fundamental UX changes in the last few major updates.

Have you looked at iOS 5 at all?

I spend the better part of every day writing iOS apps for a living. The user experience has barely changed since iOS 3.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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>With both platforms approaching maturity... I can't agree with that. Many felt that way in 2006 and definitely turned out not to be the case.

I'm not saying that we've seen the last word in mobile operating systems, but neither iOS nor Android have made any fundamental UX changes in the last few major updates.

If "last few major updates" means, say, at least 2 major updates, I believe you've been hiding under a "few major rocks", because that's certainly not the case. Both platforms have seen tremendous UX changes/improvements.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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>ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. There are two kinds of Android users in this world - those who care about this issue, and those…

why buy any Android phone other than a Nexus variant straight from Google Because the Nexus has been getting pretty mediocre reviews and none of the Nexus variants really interest me from a hardware point of view.

Eh? Basically every review I've read for it has said it's one of, if not the best phone ever (not exaggerating), save for the relatively weak camera.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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This is the old bullet-list fallacy. Quality is simply a measure of the bullet list of features, and no attempt is made to what is behind the items on the bullet list. Remember when the first iPhone was announced? The bullet list after it was announced had touchscreen at the top of the list, so every manufacturer thought that all they had to do was add a touch screen to their existing platform, and hordes of just lik…

> Remember when the first iPhone was announced? The bullet list after > it was announced had touchscreen at the top of the list No, the LG Prada was ripped off by the iPhone. Don't let apple fanboys rewrite tech history. Same with the iPod. Sure, it was a more polished product, but they were not the first with the feature set. Apple rarely is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)#iPhone_controv...

As @abruzzi said, it wasn't until the iPhone that other manufacturers started putting "touchscreen" at the top of their features lists.

Apple wasn't first with the iPhone or iPod, but they sure as hell changed the product landscape after they released them.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying that we've seen the last word in mobile operating systems, but neither iOS nor Android have made any fundamental UX changes in the last few major updates.

If "last few major updates" means, say, at least 2 major updates, I believe you've been hiding under a "few major rocks", because that's certainly not the case. Both platforms have seen tremendous UX changes/improvements.

Like what? Yes there have been some enhancements but the fundamental UI vocabulary and representation is the same. iOS was a big leap forward from the alternatives in 2007. Nothing we've seen since has been even close to as radical.

Like I said, no fundamental changes.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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post #59

This article seems relevant to the discussion, too: http://blog.bestvendor.com/2012/06/did-apple-steal-these-ios... I've noticed that over the past couple of years, Apple has kept "stealing" the functionality of very popular apps from the App Store (starting with iBooks, and then others).

Dropbox? They stole from Dropbox? Becuse iDisk never existed I guess?

"do not disturb" on a phone is only there becaus of some shitty desktop app that changes your Skype status to do not disturb?

Importing Facebook contacts never would have occurred to anyone at apple if not for some gmail plugin?

This article is worse than the one this discussion page is for.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

#108

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>ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. There are two kinds of Android users in this world - those who care about this issue, and those…

I have a Nexus S for exactly this reason, and yet I had to wait well over 6 months to get ICS. It's embarrassing that they can't push out a new OS to their own phones on time.

I have a Nexus S (4G Sprint variant). I got the update to ICS a couple months back and the phone has become more and more unstable. The same thing seemed to happen with the updates my older HTC phone got as well. My experience with Android devices thus far can be summed up in 3 words:

Bitrot, bitrot, bitrot.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Like what, specifically? ICS is great, but it's mostly improvements under the hood and window dressing--things that in the grand scheme of things really don't matter. 99% of the things that frustrate me about my Android phone are hardware-related (too little RAM, slow camera, TPM) and no software update can solve those. Yeah, the browser and calendar are improved.

That's your own fault then. Android offers a variety of hardware configurations, and you opted for a low-end one. If you're in America, I have even less pity. The $200 price difference between some low-end free-on-contract smartphone and the $200 Galaxy Nexus or HTC One X is near negligible when you consider the price of the voice+data+messaging plan over the course of a 2 year contract.

Actually, no I didn't, dude. My phone's 2+ years old and was a high-end eclair-era device. But I also wasn't complaining and I don't need or want your pity.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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post #52

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why buy any Android phone other than a Nexus variant straight from Google Because the Nexus has been getting pretty mediocre reviews and none of the Nexus variants really interest me from a hardware point of view.

Eh? Basically every review I've read for it has said it's one of, if not the best phone ever (not exaggerating), save for the relatively weak camera.

In the reviews i read, the Galaxy S II was the best Android phone. I'm not sure about the current state with the S III released.
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