Oh! I wasn’t expecting this. I’ll be here a couple of hours to answer any questions.
How did you reliably determine what works and what doesn’t in “untold combination of os/desktop/mobile clients“? Is there a description of that somewhere?
Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
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Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#52No MJML feels like a mistake. I design emails and that is literally the most important feature to me.
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#53[flagged]
This is not a good Show HN comment. There's nothing these people can do with this feedback, and it's litigating a tired internet trope. It's 2024, people overwhelmingly use HTML email, and this is not a thread intended to investigate whether that's a good thing or not.
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#54I have the personal impression that it would be a net positive if all emails were written as text. Ok, in some cases I see why html would make some sense. In those cases, my opinion is: send text and invite the person to view markup content in their browser. The e-mail context is not suitable for markup, styling, and all this stuff.
Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text. To say nothing of legitimate marketing emails (which many people rely on to get coupons and deals) that has to feature pictures and the like.
> legitimate marketing emails
I don't think there is such a thing.
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#55View -> Message Body As -> Plain Text
Not your fault, but please always provide fall back text.
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#56I really like this idea!
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text. To say nothing of legitimate marketing emails (which many people rely on to get coupons and deals) that has to feature pictures and the like.
> legitimate marketing emails I don't think there is such a thing.
I receive many such emails that I signed up for and am happy to get.
The senders of those emails are happy to send them.
Unless you - an unrelated third party - think you have the right to insert yourself into this business relationship, it's completely legitimate.
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#58I have the personal impression that it would be a net positive if all emails were written as text. Ok, in some cases I see why html would make some sense. In those cases, my opinion is: send text and invite the person to view markup content in their browser. The e-mail context is not suitable for markup, styling, and all this stuff.
Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text. To say nothing of legitimate marketing emails (which many people rely on to get coupons and deals) that has to feature pictures and the like.
> Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text.
None of that requires HTML. Using ">" to denote previous conversation quotes is the standard and they normally get highlighted different than reply text. And images just need a decent 'drag-to-add-attachment' flow.
Marketing emails don't matter as they are an abuse of the platform.
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
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Literally everyone that sends marketing emails uses HTML (from political campaigns to video games, to movies, to shopping). You'd be putting yourself at a serious competitive disadvantage if you started sending plaintext (not to mention that it would look spammy, if anything).
Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text. To say nothing of legitimate marketing emails (which many people rely on to get coupons and deals) that has to feature pictures and the like.
> Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text. None of that requires HTML. Using ">" to denote previous conversation quotes is the standard and they normally get highlighted different than reply text. And images just need a decent 'drag-to-add-attachment' flow. Marketing emails don't matter as they ar…
The entire reason email (and the internet) took off is because there are many ways to use it, for many purposes.
Handing down diktats about the correct use cases and workflows for a flexible thing that is currently being used by billions of people in billions of ways - like email - will either reduce your personal relevance to them, or, if you succeed in pushing your vision onto the popular thing, drive people away from it.