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"Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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>With both platforms approaching maturity... I can't agree with that. Many felt that way in 2006 and definitely turned out not to be the case.

I'm not saying that we've seen the last word in mobile operating systems, but neither iOS nor Android have made any fundamental UX changes in the last few major updates.

Have you looked at Ice Cream Sandwich at all?

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can see not a single feature that is compared in this article is exclusive to ICS. Those features are also available on 2.2 and 2.3, so the whole discussion about "ICS is vaporware" is irrelevant when talking about those features.

I guess when you call 3rd party apps that implement things features it's a little hard to tie things to one operating system version...

As others have pointed out, the way iOS limits the reach of certain things, it was not even possible to have a third party app do some of those things. So, while these features may not be built into ICS, the Android architecture allowed for a third party app to implement it already.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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iOS 6 will even come to 3GS :)

Yes, but Siri wont, 3D maps wont. If the main features of the update don't make it to the device, what's your point? edit: the -> your (I know the point of updating the 3GS, I don't understand the OPs point in its attempt to mock Android)

There were more than two features announced.

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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I find it kind of humorous that we used to hear a lot of "but the App Store has way more apps than the Market" as a "feature" that made iOS more desirable. Hell, Apple even used the "There's an app for that" campaign for quite a while. And now we have people saying, "Well, so what if there was an app for that in ICS. Third party apps don't count". Oh how times change.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

Like 250 million iOS users out of 365 can't use 2 of the biggest features of iOS - Siri and the 3D Maps (and also turn by turn I believe). How is that for fragmentation? Yes, Apple does port an iOS version to most devices, and yes manufacturers have been very slow with ICS, but Apple doesn't push all the features when they port the OS to older hardware either, and sometime they are major features.

Not all the features of ICS would work on all phones if you could actually upgrade them. You're clutching at straws.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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>ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. There are two kinds of Android users in this world - those who care about this issue, and those…

This segmentation for two kinds of Android users is exactly the problem. If you are an IOS user, whether a poweruser or not, you will get the latest upgrade and a range of new features by default. This delights users, they don't have to care about the issue to be satisfied with the device. Perhaps I am lazy, perhaps I am somewhere in between those two archetypes you mention. I want to hold the device i buy before i b…

There are no power-IOS-users :)

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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This is the old bullet-list fallacy. Quality is simply a measure of the bullet list of features, and no attempt is made to what is behind the items on the bullet list. Remember when the first iPhone was announced? The bullet list after it was announced had touchscreen at the top of the list, so every manufacturer thought that all they had to do was add a touch screen to their existing platform, and hordes of just lik…

  > Remember when the first iPhone was announced? The bullet list after
  > it was announced had touchscreen at the top of the list
No, the LG Prada was ripped off by the iPhone. Don't let apple fanboys rewrite tech history. Same with the iPod. Sure, it was a more polished product, but they were not the first with the feature set. Apple rarely is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)#iPhone_controv...

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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My Motorola RAZR could, in theory, do everything that the iPhone could do. Apps, email, web browser, three way calling, blah blah blah. I couldn't remember how to use any of it, and when I managed, it all sucked dog's balls.

When android boosters realize that compatibility, simplicity, ease of use, and even standardization are actually FEATURES they might get somewhere.

Meanwhile they've got phones from hardware vendors who expect no loyalty from their customers and don't show any loyalty to thei customers, because their customer will buy whatever gadget has the most blinking lights next time around. It's a self selecting group.

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