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"Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by dbaupp »

phsr wrote: post #10
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6. What 3 year old Android phone will get ICS? Like you said, I'm guessing not many if any at all. Agreeing with your point, Android is heavily fragmented, with phone manufacturers having the final say on which software gets deployed to their phones. Many of them are going to use new OS version to force software upgrades

> Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6

Do you know how much of it will be enabled? (e.g. will it have Siri working out of the box?)

(Genuine question, btw.)

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

The thing this misses for me is what it can do and what it does do for most people.

Smartphones are now mass market which means that a lot of people buying and using them aren't engaging in a lot of config, customisation and so on, that 90% of what they do and how they work is how it comes out of the box.

Only about 7% of Android devices are using ICS 6 months after launch. By comparison 80% of iOS customers using iOS5 12 months on. What that means is that what's in iOS6.0 is probably way more relevant to your average iOS user than what's in ICS is to your average Android user.

I've not seen anyone say ICS isn't good, the issue seems to be that it's not what most people experience when the use Android.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by diminish »

jgroome wrote: post #6
atacrawl wrote: post #2

Why does "third party apps" get to count as Android already having a feature that iOS currently doesn't have?

As far as I know, Android apps can add core functionality to the phone. For example, if I download the Facebook app, I can now share my photos from the Camera app via Facebook, without having to actually open the Facebook app itself. Same with Dropbox, Twitter, and the like.

Yes service sharing is the killer Android feature thanks to API design; Virtually all cloud and social services can have a share button on my android.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by shadesandcolour »

Nemisis7654 wrote: post #7
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

It's hard to compare getting ICS on legacy phones to getting iOS 6 on your iPhone 4S. Of course, first gen Android devices aren't going to be able to run ICS, but neither will first gen iOS devices. iOS 6 is not going to be on the original iPad, the original iPhone or the iPhone 3G.

None of the Apple devices that you mentioned are sold at retail anymore. How many Android devices that are being sold in stores can't get access to the latest operating system update?

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by aarondf »

dbaupp wrote: post #21
phsr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6. What 3 year old Android phone will get ICS? Like you said, I'm guessing not many if any at all. Agreeing with your point, Android is heavily fragmented, with phone manufacturers having the final say on which software gets deployed to their phones. Many of them are going to use new OS version to force software upgrades

> Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6 Do you know how much of it will be enabled? (e.g. will it have Siri working out of the box?) (Genuine question, btw.)

This is just a guess, but since the iPhone 4 currently doesn't support Siri, I doubt the 3GS would.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by DeepDuh »

mdhen wrote: post #4
atacrawl wrote: post #2

Why does "third party apps" get to count as Android already having a feature that iOS currently doesn't have?

Probably because functionality is what counts. who cares how you get there? and one of the upsides of Android having open development is that features will get built in more rapidly via third parties.

"Oh, so your 10.4 has indexed search and Expose? Well look at what my pimped XP can do.."

"So you have hardware accelerated video filters? Well look at what I can fetch, hack and compile my Gentoo into.."

I'm not saying Android is bad, but this znet post is just stupid, sorry. Apple has never really been a big inventor of new technologies (apart from industrial design), but integrating existing ideas as good as possible. Some people prefer to tinker on their smartphones, some people like me get enough tinkering on their desktop PC and like their notebooks and smartphones to "just work" (quoted because it's actually not always like that with Apple products anymore, but at least their iOS devices are pretty solid in what they do).

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by pook1e »

dbaupp wrote: post #21
phsr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6. What 3 year old Android phone will get ICS? Like you said, I'm guessing not many if any at all. Agreeing with your point, Android is heavily fragmented, with phone manufacturers having the final say on which software gets deployed to their phones. Many of them are going to use new OS version to force software upgrades

> Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6 Do you know how much of it will be enabled? (e.g. will it have Siri working out of the box?) (Genuine question, btw.)

I'd be very surprised if iOS 6 included Siri for the 3GS (or even the 4, for that matter).

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

dbaupp wrote: post #21
phsr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6. What 3 year old Android phone will get ICS? Like you said, I'm guessing not many if any at all. Agreeing with your point, Android is heavily fragmented, with phone manufacturers having the final say on which software gets deployed to their phones. Many of them are going to use new OS version to force software upgrades

> Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6 Do you know how much of it will be enabled? (e.g. will it have Siri working out of the box?) (Genuine question, btw.)

It won't get Siri. Even on iOS5 only the 4S supports Siri.

As far as I'm aware this is a deliberate disabling thing as the original Siri app worked on earlier models (maybe not the 3GS but the 4).

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