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My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
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Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flexbox, grid. You're all forgetting the best way to build layouts: ol' reliable, .
It is almost a shame modern browsers no longer support all the fun layout patterns of ol' FRAMESET. There was a layout tool to cut your teeth on (possibly literally the way it was made out of browser chrome).
Not that I necessarily advocate for frameset insanity, but you know what? That is a shame. My controversial (?) opinion is that browsers should literally never break anything that was once a part of the web platform unless there's simply no other choice. If the size of it is getting too big... first, stop adding more shit. (And then maybe, implement some old features in terms of some newer ones. Not really "web platform" but I am a huge proponent of what Ruffle is doing for the web.)
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#213This should not be on HN, esp not front page.
We took a vote and decided it should be at the front.
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kids these days don’t know how easy they have it with flexbox!
I know you're not entirely serious, but we really had it good and largely figured out with tables. It's probably because using tables for layouts was my native language, but I still sometimes have to mentally translate divs into a table in my mind to picture what is happening, and when default types are change (like block to inline, etc) it sometimes breaks my brain and I have to fallback to experimentation to get wh…
> I still sometimes have to mentally translate divs into a table in my mind to picture what is happening
I still use tables (seriously).
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#215does she feel like dropping a frontend framework soon? modern webdev needs that sort of simplicity and focus on content.
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#216Exactly as I would do it if I were a 7yo. Speak what you will about the virtues of CSS and semantic markup, these things get in the way of having fun. And can be learned later.
Totally agree with you. Not a front end dev myself, and I have multiple variations of "how do i center a div" in my search history, haha. With varying degrees of angry expletives added to the query.
If nobody’s gonna see it to complain that I’m “doing it wrong” I’ll still just throw a center tag in from time to time.
Look, it works and lets me move on to stuff that matters.
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#217HTML is such a great abstraction and syntax. I wonder if the same 7 year old would be able to (or have the attention) to learn something like React? Probably not. Maybe we should be testing our interfaces and API's with 7 year olds from now on. If they can't or won't use it, its probably a good signal the design is wrong.
Beginners, especially younger ones, crave for guidance. But what they get is often loud marketing and cargo cult behavior. Now it seems to be even worse than when I was starting out. For example YT feeds get spammed with fearmongering and clickbait thumbnails. Apparently the attention of beginners is very valuable.
Don't other crafts and professions have a stronger focus on understanding fundamentals?
There's also much more useful information today than 20y ago though. Even though the signal to noise ratio seemingly gets smaller.
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is almost a shame modern browsers no longer support all the fun layout patterns of ol' FRAMESET. There was a layout tool to cut your teeth on (possibly literally the way it was made out of browser chrome).
Not that I necessarily advocate for frameset insanity, but you know what? That is a shame. My controversial (?) opinion is that browsers should literally never break anything that was once a part of the web platform unless there's simply no other choice. If the size of it is getting too big... first, stop adding more shit. (And then maybe, implement some old features in terms of some newer ones. Not really "web platf…
I’ll go a step farther: improved frames and datasource-aware tables and lists with a few very basic features found in almost any other UI kit out of the box would have given us 99% of the actually-beneficial stuff AJAX did, but better.
The Web is a ton worse because we decided to build apps on it but never built the tools to do it right, even though the building blocks were right there.
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#219Ok but did you make sure she used Kubernetes to deploy? :) Seriously her web page made me smile. Well done!
Hahaha this thread made me buy my daughter a domain and start to teach her too as she's been interested about what I do, and I was just getting things setup and yes, her site will be deployed via kubernetes because it's easy as apart of my infra already.
Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
#220I wish I still had my websites from when I was around 9 or 10. Alas they were stored on a Seagate Quantum Bigfoot (a 5.25" hard disk which we our family PC had for some reason), and it failed at some point.