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My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by seafoamteal »

noisy_boy wrote: post #193

Wonder why for such a cute and clean website, uMatrix is showing cloudlflareinsights.com blocked? On the off chance that a 7 year old isn't interested in website traffic analytics, is it Cloudflare injecting their shit?

Websites hosted on Cloudflare Pages include Cloudflare's own analytics iirc.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by nimbleal »

I was talking to my parents the other day and surprised myself getting pretty chocked up remembering how my dad had shown me how to program an ascii animation on his 386, and how the wonder I felt at that in many ways led me to where I am today, so many years later. These things matter.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by fransje26 »

kapitanjakc wrote: post #95
fransje26 wrote: post #89

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> By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". Coincidentally, I've been thinking about that recently. My conclusion was that this couldn't be true, as it didn't make any sense. I mean, even when using a phone or a tablet, the pictures they take or the videos they make end up somewhere. And that somewhere must be found, to be able t…

> Are people really that hermetic to understanding how the items and tool they use actually work? From what I've seen in some of our new recruits, yes. And those are technically educated people. In general public, I've noticed that if stuff is working well, people don't tend to take a deep look into how it works. I guess that's how different minds work right ? For example a curious mind wants to know how a thing beha…

> From what I've seen in some of our new recruits, yes. And those are technically educated people.

That's really the part I can't wrap my head around.. The first thing I tend to do when I encounter something new -a new phone, a new bike, new tools, etc- is to understand how it works, to see what I can do with it, what its limits are, and most importantly, if I can bend those limits to suit my needs..

Accepting something at face value is really not an option. Partly because, more often than not, that would also mean settling for mediocrity as "quality" seems to be a secondary target nowadays. Thing will not work how you want, things will break and will need to be repaired, some artificial constraints might be need to be circumvented. And on the other hand, there is always something interesting that can be learned by being curious.

We are not all wired the same. But if the "technically educated" people are no longer "technical" than at least I shouldn't fear about future employability.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by jchw »

dpwm wrote: post #199
jchw wrote: post #179

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Flexbox, grid. You're all forgetting the best way to build layouts: ol' reliable, .

As used on HN. It just works, even today.

Although there is some degree of silliness to suggesting table layouts in 2024, it frankly really is not that bad. To me personally, the era of float: left and clearfix and 10 layers of wrapper divs was significantly more of a mess. "Oh look, I got my layout working on IE6! Oops, it's now broken in Opera..." Anyone remember using invalid CSS to write browser-dependent styles? How about using Microsoft's proprietary DirectX filters to make PNG transparency work? In the era of taking crummy PSDs full of graphics and chopping them up into images for an HTML template, these were the tools of the trade.

Not that tables were perfectly standardized or anything, because I do remember Netscape and IE not totally agreeing on how to handle column widths, but they sure were, well, simpler.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by WorldMaker »

jchw wrote: post #179
WorldMaker wrote: post #178

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Who needs Flexbox's inscrutable 1-dimension language when you can use ASCII diagrams in CSS Grid for clever 2D things easily? CSS Grid Kids are truly spoiled.

Flexbox, grid. You're all forgetting the best way to build layouts: ol' reliable, .

It is almost a shame modern browsers no longer support all the fun layout patterns of ol' FRAMESET. There was a layout tool to cut your teeth on (possibly literally the way it was made out of browser chrome).
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