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Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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lkdfjlkdfjlg wrote: post #57
isoprophlex wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, call them byte streams or blobs, that's fine too. I'm not disagreeing, but the point I wanted to make was that recently, people seem to have gotten the idea that their objects are semi-magical things locked into some app or some cloud service. Which is fine by the SaaS providers, or course. But it doesn't really foster understanding of the world around you. Like kids thinking corn comes from the corn factory.

When I was a kid I used to think that pasta came from a pasta factory.

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Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by rokisen157 »

7 years old? Don't force kids If you need your kid to be kid. Hand coding HTML is just trash than collecting leaves & beautify the kindergarden book.

I've no memory for last 10+ years other than computer and programming. All I've pretty beautiful memory from childhood.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

cowsaymoo wrote: post #87
isoprophlex wrote: post #33

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Is this code review of HTML written by a 7 year old too hackernews, or just hackernews enough? Who can tell!

When the Trump assassination attempt happened last week and every single post on here was still about computers that's when I realized this place is different

We need our safe space.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by HenryBemis »

moffkalast wrote: post #78
jen729w wrote: post #65

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Also , replying to myself, have you ever had a job? At a place? Where the primary function isn't coding? Files are everywhere . They are every-thing . Except now, thanks to the disaster that is SharePoint, nobody has a fucking idea where they are any more. Because they've been abstracted away by some genius on the Teams team. So nobody can find what they were just working on. Or they have no idea if the thing they fi…

I can't believe I'm seriously reading a discussion around the existence of files, what is this, an SNL sketch? This very site is being served from a file system.

I don't think the comment was about the "file system", more like about the "humans" that dump every file they have to whichever folder they find available, and in the end of the day/week/month/year nobody knows where that file is.

And then the person leaves the company/org and this file will float in space (SharePoint) forever, never to be recalled again, never to be read again, alone, in a cold world (computer room).

Speaking about SNL sketch.. it reminded me James Cameron's reaction on the Papyrus sketch --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm1-k__LF40

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by kapitanjakc »

fransje26 wrote: post #89
isoprophlex wrote: post #3

Wow, great stuff. Tell her she did a fantastic job! --- By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". The median developer even seems to have a very shallow understanding of how a computer actually works. And why would they, if they can just glue some Lambdas together to earn a buck? --- Praise those that look a bit deeper and really…

> By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". Coincidentally, I've been thinking about that recently. My conclusion was that this couldn't be true, as it didn't make any sense. I mean, even when using a phone or a tablet, the pictures they take or the videos they make end up somewhere. And that somewhere must be found, to be able t…

> Are people really that hermetic to understanding how the items and tool they use actually work?

From what I've seen in some of our new recruits, yes. And those are technically educated people.

In general public, I've noticed that if stuff is working well, people don't tend to take a deep look into how it works.

I guess that's how different minds work right ? For example a curious mind wants to know how a thing behaves and how it works etc, whereas a visual mind would look for how it looks.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by tempfile »

Sander_Marechal wrote: post #75
dchest wrote: post #63

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I strongly believe that the harm we experienced from XHTML should not be passed down to future generations.

You didn't love the strict and unhelpful generic XML exception you got when you accidentally forgot to close a tag?

I thought the whole point of XML tags coming in named pairs was so you could be helpfully told which tag wasn't closed?

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by throwaway3306a »

Sander_Marechal wrote: post #75
dchest wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly believe that the harm we experienced from XHTML should not be passed down to future generations.

You didn't love the strict and unhelpful generic XML exception you got when you accidentally forgot to close a tag?

Don't blame bad tools on the language.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by Arch485 »

fransje26 wrote: post #89
isoprophlex wrote: post #3

Wow, great stuff. Tell her she did a fantastic job! --- By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". The median developer even seems to have a very shallow understanding of how a computer actually works. And why would they, if they can just glue some Lambdas together to earn a buck? --- Praise those that look a bit deeper and really…

> By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". Coincidentally, I've been thinking about that recently. My conclusion was that this couldn't be true, as it didn't make any sense. I mean, even when using a phone or a tablet, the pictures they take or the videos they make end up somewhere. And that somewhere must be found, to be able t…

I'm 22, and most of my "not tech savvy" peers and anyone I've met under 20 have zero concept of how most tech actually works.

The pictures taken on your phone are not "stored somewhere", they are stored "in Google" or "in iCloud" or "in the photos app". Documents are similarily "in Google" or "in Word". There's no intuitive relation between photos and documents being the same thing on the filesystem, nor is there a concept of the filesystem at all. Generally, things jusr "work" (until they don't) and nobody asks any questions.

Now, I would like to clarify that this isn't a "darn kids these days" tangent, in fact, it's the opposite: darn adults these days won't teach their kids how to use the computer!

I would expect/really hope that when my generation starts having kids, computer literacy will start going up again. But for now, it's totally in the drain.

With respect to developers... Most of them know a lot less than they should. This is also an education/incentives problem.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by zikduruqe »

isoprophlex wrote: post #3

Wow, great stuff. Tell her she did a fantastic job! --- By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". The median developer even seems to have a very shallow understanding of how a computer actually works. And why would they, if they can just glue some Lambdas together to earn a buck? --- Praise those that look a bit deeper and really…

I am the last generation that helped my parents with technical setup and support, and my children with technical setup and support.
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