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Jia Tan "JiaT75": Added error text to warning when untaring with bsdtar (2021)

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Re: Jia Tan "JiaT75": Added error text to warning when untaring with bsdtar (2021)

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Right-- A busy maintainer sees a weird looking commit-- but it's three lines long, submitted from a known contributor, and the tests pass. It was very carefully planned to be innocuous-looking enough to not trigger any concerns with a casual once-over (oh, it just changes the way an error is printed) and obfuscated enough to not be obviously malicious because of the diff formatting, and submitted by a reliable known…

> People often cite death and taxes as the only certainties in life-- we could easily include human fallibility. What was it ... 80% of aviation accidents due human error?

Sounds about right. Although some number of those could be classified as plane interface errors or process deficiencies, nobody is perfect. Beyond that, in those situations, nobody was deliberately trying to get them to crash the plane!

In the years I worked as a nightclub bouncer, dozens or hundreds of people would try to fool me every night... and sometimes they did! I had a lot of experience foiling them, but they had a lot more time on their hands to scheme whatever thing they were scheming than I had to pay attention to them, individually.

As people pointed out, this was a technically simple attack-- the meat of the attack was psychological and emotional. In practice, particularly smart people are more susceptible to attacks like this because they subconsciously assume they'll catch everything that comes at them, and make a lot of assumptions about the attack vectors of problems based on what they're good at, like the classic XKCD about cryptography vs a wrench.

Re: Jia Tan "JiaT75": Added error text to warning when untaring with bsdtar (2021)

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Frist Psot culture is real: everyone else sees the “contribution”, and if it happens to be of marginal value, it earns karma. Stochastic karma farming benefits from a larger N, hence posting without reading.

Thanks for weighing in! But this is just speculation, right? Are you speaking from experience? I'm specifically looking for someone who does it to explain it. I mean, I can make my own guesses about various forms of attention seeking and hopes to somehow cash in on high karma all day long but, to me it feels like HN is among the worst possible venues for that. I'm not aware of easy ways to convert HN karma into cash…

So, hacker news internet points, yes, mostly useless.

That said, visibility in this community IS valuable.

How many billions of dollars flow through yc companies?

Obligatory discussion of hacker news karma points: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35174825

Re: Jia Tan "JiaT75": Added error text to warning when untaring with bsdtar (2021)

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Interesting! But this sounds like an explanation why you read the comments without reading the article, not why you comment without reading, and those aren't inherently the same thing. So to clarify: do you comment on the content of the post without reading it? I'm specifically interested in why people comment on links and articles they didn't read. And for maximum clarity here, I mean commenting on the content of th…

Uh, maybe. Less likely to than just reading comments for sure. But for example this thread is on such a tangent (and it could be a hell of a lot less) that TFA is completely irrelevant to what I would comment or how it would be received, so yes I might; almost certainly have on several occasions (over years and wouldn't-like-to-think-many comments).

Too late to edit but I just wanted to add never a top-level comment, but in thread probably quite a lot actually.

And as an example of how it could be much less of a tangent, more related but still not require reading TFA to comment, I saw something recently where a top-level comment was along the lines 'I would use strace for this personally', and then the thread was all about strace. Commenting in that thread, other than to compare it to whatever OP was doing, doesn't really require reading the article, because it's about something else now, and that's been made clear from the top-level comment.

I suppose it's kind of like joining a discussion at a party - you don't need to be excluded just because you missed the thing that started the conversation. Difference here is if you want/need to or are interested, you can still just go and read it without someone having to awkwardly/hurriedly fill you in.

Re: Jia Tan "JiaT75": Added error text to warning when untaring with bsdtar (2021)

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> … if, by asking, you mean my general use of ".-"? Yup, that's what I mean.

It is something of a mark of style - which, since you kindly ask - I inherited from my father, and I use as a sort of homage.- PS. It has also, countless times, saved me when I "retroactively" needed to claim authorship of something I had writen, by pointing it out. Most people either don't notice or do and don't say ...

Thank you—a nice and subtle homage.

Re: Jia Tan "JiaT75": Added error text to warning when untaring with bsdtar (2021)

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It is something of a mark of style - which, since you kindly ask - I inherited from my father, and I use as a sort of homage.- PS. It has also, countless times, saved me when I "retroactively" needed to claim authorship of something I had writen, by pointing it out. Most people either don't notice or do and don't say ...

Thank you—a nice and subtle homage.

I think it is. Also, as best I can, with my life - as do we all, don't we? Trying to be worthy of having been put here by those that came before us ...

Thanks for your attention to detail and the opportunity to converse.-

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