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Re: Codestral Mamba

#91

Post by NotMichaelBay »

passion__desire wrote: post #48
refulgentis wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"All you need is users" doesn't seem optimal IMHO, Stability.ai providing an object lesson in that. They just released weights, and being a for profit, need to optimize for making money, not eyeballs. It seems wise to guide people to the API offering.

But they also signal competence in the space which means M&A. Or big nation states in future would hire them to produce country models once the space matures as was Emad's vision.

What does a "country model" mean? Optimized for that country's specific language, or with state propaganda or something else?

Re: Codestral Mamba

#92

Post by treyd »

bhouston wrote: post #46
refulgentis wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"All you need is users" doesn't seem optimal IMHO, Stability.ai providing an object lesson in that. They just released weights, and being a for profit, need to optimize for making money, not eyeballs. It seems wise to guide people to the API offering.

On top of Hacker News (the target demographic for coders) without an effective monetizable call to action? What a missed opportunity. Github Copilot makes +100M/year, if not way way more. Having a VS Code extension for Mistral would be a revenue stream if it was one-click and better or cheaper than Github Copilot. It is malpractice in my mind to not be doing this if you are investing in creating coding models.

How the hell does Copilot make $100M/yr? That seems an order of magnitude higher than I would expect at the high end.

Re: Codestral Mamba

#93

Post by flakiness »

monkeydust wrote: post #10

Any recommended product primers to Mamba vs Transformers - pros/cons etc?

For those who are text oriented: https://newsletter.maartengrootendorst.com/p/a-visual-guide-...

The paper author has a blog series but I don't think it's for general public https://tridao.me/blog/2024/mamba2-part1-model/

Re: Codestral Mamba

#95

Post by ketzo »

treyd wrote: post #92
bhouston wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On top of Hacker News (the target demographic for coders) without an effective monetizable call to action? What a missed opportunity. Github Copilot makes +100M/year, if not way way more. Having a VS Code extension for Mistral would be a revenue stream if it was one-click and better or cheaper than Github Copilot. It is malpractice in my mind to not be doing this if you are investing in creating coding models.

How the hell does Copilot make $100M/yr? That seems an order of magnitude higher than I would expect at the high end.

if we’re talking individual subscriptions that’s ~1M paying subscribers. honestly that number would not totally shock me?

plus they’ve got some kinda enterprise/team offering; assuming they charge extra there, I could easily see $100M ARR

but that’s pure conjecture, and generous at that; I don’t think we have any hard numbers

Re: Codestral Mamba

#96

Post by treme »

mountainriver wrote: post #56
rjurney wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude is much better. Overwhelmingly better. It not only implements deep learning models for me, it has great suggestions on evolving them to actually work.

lol no it’s not, the benchmarks don’t show that at all. Both have issues in different ways

it's the consensus of people that use both that claude.ai is superior for practical use despite benchmark results which are mostly one-shot based prompts.

Re: Codestral Mamba

#97

Post by refulgentis »

NotMichaelBay wrote: post #91
passion__desire wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they also signal competence in the space which means M&A. Or big nation states in future would hire them to produce country models once the space matures as was Emad's vision.

What does a "country model" mean? Optimized for that country's specific language, or with state propaganda or something else?

More or less; it was about as serious as your median Elon product tweet the last decade, or median coin nonsense.

Half-baked idea that obviously the models would need to be tuned for different languages / for specific knowledge, therefore countries would pay to do that.

There were many ideas like that, none of them panned out, hence the defenestration. All love for the guy, he did a very, very good thing. It's just meaningless to invoke it here, not only because it's completely off-topic, if anything that's already the play as the EU champion, and because the Stability gentleman was just thinking out loud, nothing more.

Re: Codestral Mamba

#98

Post by lolinder »

I know it's just a throwaway line, but the bit about Cleopatra at the top feels in poor taste. It's completely inaccurate in that no one has ever attributed her death to a "mamba", and even the asp that some sources claim has been disputed. But even aside from that, it just feels weird that a human being's death has turned into a random reference you can make in a throwaway joke while advertising a product.

They're certainly not the first to use Cleopatra this way nor the most egregious, but there are plenty of other random mamba jokes that could have filled in there and both made more sense and been less crass.

Re: Codestral Mamba

#99

Post by alluro2 »

lolinder wrote: post #98

I know it's just a throwaway line, but the bit about Cleopatra at the top feels in poor taste. It's completely inaccurate in that no one has ever attributed her death to a "mamba", and even the asp that some sources claim has been disputed. But even aside from that, it just feels weird that a human being's death has turned into a random reference you can make in a throwaway joke while advertising a product. They're c…

Maybe it was generated :)

Re: Codestral Mamba

#100

Post by virgildotcodes »

lolinder wrote: post #98

I know it's just a throwaway line, but the bit about Cleopatra at the top feels in poor taste. It's completely inaccurate in that no one has ever attributed her death to a "mamba", and even the asp that some sources claim has been disputed. But even aside from that, it just feels weird that a human being's death has turned into a random reference you can make in a throwaway joke while advertising a product. They're c…

Too soon!
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