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Windows NT for Power Macintosh

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Re: Windows NT for Power Macintosh

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Post by evereverever »

dkadams wrote: post #95
SoftTalker wrote: post #48

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Yep, I used to run Apple's (maybe it was still NeXT at the time?) Mail app on Windows NT, I can't recall where I got it, maybe it was part of some goodies included with WebObjects?

Yes. WebObjects development was possible on NT due to “YellowBox”. It shipped with ProjectBuilder, EOModler, Mail, and other NeXT apps. You could even do Objective-C monkeypatching shennigans on YellowBox, which I remember being needed at the time to get the scroll wheels on certain mice to work on YellowBox apps. http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/4B800F78-0F7...

The YellowBox would have been such a great target. They kept it around for iTunes on Windows and I suspect they still use some version of it.

Re: Windows NT for Power Macintosh

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

hypercube33 wrote: post #195
duffyjp wrote: post #97

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I had a job in 2006 where the sysadmin ran the entire shop on a single OpenVMS server with two 500Mhz Alpha CPUs. It was our file server, AD server (somehow), DB server, web server, everything. I just looked it up and that CPU came out in 1996, at the same time Intel released their 200Mhz Pentium. Alpha was way ahead of their time.

Somewhere there is a blog about how that CPU had some hardware bug that prevented it from hitting 1ghz. if it didn't have that I'd be a 1ghz 64bit processor in a desktop early on. I really cannot find the blog. It was down a rabbit hole of how Intel AMD both picked some IBM mainframe to base their designs off but AMD went for an older quirky design but it allows a lot of advantages. Anyway, search engines are awful n…

Which CPU? One of the DEC Alphas?

I tried a few Kagi searches, but found Wikipedia claiming that at least one Alpha ran faster:

> The Alpha 21164 or EV5 became available in 1995 at processor frequencies of up to 333 MHz. In July 1996 the line was speed bumped to 500 MHz, in March 1998 to 666 MHz. Also in 1998 the Alpha 21264 (EV6) was released at 450 MHz, eventually reaching (in 2001 with the 21264C/EV68CB) 1.25 GHz.

Re: Windows NT for Power Macintosh

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Post by fasa99 »

qingcharles wrote: post #184
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #148

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I rather see a reason that many such cancelled projects had very elegant architectures/structures, which is something that hackers love. If you want to ship a product so that it becomes commercially successful, you often have to "deeply taint" this clear vision to make the product compatible with the multitude of very inelegant (industry) standards that customers expect/require. Thus the nostalgia is not about shippi…

Right. Most cancelled projects are beautifully architected and discount tons of installed products with all their decades of cruft. Then you start trying to bring the New Thing(r) into the Real World(tm) and there are 5000 edge cases the original project dealt with in a 42-page if/else block for 270 different OEM patches that were sold by some JV team in another building who have never written a line of code in their…

"Brother, it's edge cases all the way down" - Alan Tuna Turing
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