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Re: You're wrong about LinkedIn, it's not the users, it's you

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Post by polemic » Mon, Jun 11, 2012, 9:03 PM UTC

Splines wrote: post #20

smoyer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jeff Atwood has made the same claim and it's his rationale for using OpenID on the StackExchange sites. I don't disagree, but most users won't figure out how to use OpenID. FB login is widely known but it's not at all side-effect free.

FB seems like the lowest-bar when it comes to usability. Most people have a facebook account, and are familiar with the "app needs your permissions" flow. I'm not familiar with how you write a web-app to use FB authentication - how much does using FB auth obviate the need for you to worry about user credentials?

I just wish everyone didn't take the opportunity to also tap into the 'post to you activity stream, spam your friends' goody bag at the same time.

Use FB by all means, but don't fail the auth if the user declines the extras.

Re: You're wrong about LinkedIn, it's not the users, it's you

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Post by dllthomas » Tue, Jun 12, 2012, 12:19 AM UTC

eli wrote: post #15

smoyer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jeff Atwood has made the same claim and it's his rationale for using OpenID on the StackExchange sites. I don't disagree, but most users won't figure out how to use OpenID. FB login is widely known but it's not at all side-effect free.

I also seem to recall it took quite a bit of engineering to get OpenID working properly...

Getting OpenID working was pretty trivial; getting additional info from the ID provider (name and whatnot) is messier.

Re: You're wrong about LinkedIn, it's not the users, it's you

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Post by gaius » Tue, Jun 12, 2012, 8:06 AM UTC

Splines wrote: post #20

smoyer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jeff Atwood has made the same claim and it's his rationale for using OpenID on the StackExchange sites. I don't disagree, but most users won't figure out how to use OpenID. FB login is widely known but it's not at all side-effect free.

FB seems like the lowest-bar when it comes to usability. Most people have a facebook account, and are familiar with the "app needs your permissions" flow. I'm not familiar with how you write a web-app to use FB authentication - how much does using FB auth obviate the need for you to worry about user credentials?

No-one will use FB auth until they can be confident that whatever site isn't going to spew crap all over their wall. There is some truly obnoxious behavior around. Take The Graun, a newspaper in the UK. If you follow a link from FB to their site, they will direct you to login with FB. Then when you do, every time you read a story, they will post that you did on your timeline. Who on Earth would want that?