Monetization and abuse has been mentioned a bunch as things to consider as you gain more users, but I'll add a couple more I think are relevant, at least once the service is big enough. Your payment processor. Payment processors might get triggered by the fact that adult content is pretty much explicitly allowed. They might also just generally deem you "high risk" and kick you out. I think this is one of the biggest…
Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur
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#152Looks great, and clearly a lot of time and thought invested. Not news to you, I'm sure, but these sites typically only last for a while. Because nobody has really hit on a way to subsidize a reasonable free plan enough to pay for the bandwidth it collectively consumes, and to implement enough spam protection. Especially once it hits a certain adoption curve. So they either die or find a way to push ads, like imgur di…
I found a way, pay me: https://imgz.org/
Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur
#153Looks great, and clearly a lot of time and thought invested. Not news to you, I'm sure, but these sites typically only last for a while. Because nobody has really hit on a way to subsidize a reasonable free plan enough to pay for the bandwidth it collectively consumes, and to implement enough spam protection. Especially once it hits a certain adoption curve. So they either die or find a way to push ads, like imgur di…
I made one of these back in 2005 and it was inevitably gangloaded with questionable content like p*rn, malware, software license keys, copyrighted material, etc.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You're comparing Horizon to cloud storage services, which I think is unfair. Horizon is focused on the sharing aspect. Uploading to Google Drive and OneDrive is not as effortless as Horizon and won't provide the same frictionless viewing experience for whoever you share the links to. Yeah... It's nice that you get a business opportunity out of this, but one of my first thoughts was how easy it used to be to host im…
Not even Open AI, which arguably has the resources to programmatically "look" at images and know if they are okay, wants to do image hosting. That should give you pause. What do their lawyers know that you don't?
Also these services still make it easy to share a folder of images, they just make embedded uses a pain.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
In 2016, Imgur raised $40 million in funding from investors, valuing the company at around $500 million. In 2021, Imgur was acquired by the media company, MediaLab, for an undisclosed amount, reportedly around $200-300 million. Alan Schaaf, the CEO and founder, reportedly owned around 40% of the company at the time of the acquisition, which would have netted him a significant amount, estimated to be around $80-120 mi…
So the goal is to make another unsustainable business, make everyone use and love it, then sell it to someone who will make it uterly shitty with the hopes of squeezing at least a bit of money out of the people who now rely on it, before it inevitably dies?
Imgur is still good. It's just not great anymore, and it's a long way from shitty.
Re: Show HN: Horizon – Private alternative to Imgur
#156Looks great, and clearly a lot of time and thought invested. Not news to you, I'm sure, but these sites typically only last for a while. Because nobody has really hit on a way to subsidize a reasonable free plan enough to pay for the bandwidth it collectively consumes, and to implement enough spam protection. Especially once it hits a certain adoption curve. So they either die or find a way to push ads, like imgur di…
The spam protection is worth repeating. I made one of these back in 2005 and it was inevitably gangloaded with questionable content like p*rn, malware, software license keys, copyrighted material, etc.
It soon became apparent that this is not ideal.
Same thing with tools that would try to archive Imgur, the results basically need manual review because the resulting dataset is a loaded gun.
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#158Are private domains allowed on the free plan? https://docs.hrzn.cool/pics/add_private_domain
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#159Are private domains allowed on the free plan? https://docs.hrzn.cool/pics/add_private_domain
> This feature is exclusive to Horizon Everest users. If you are not subscribed to Horizon Everest, you can do so in your Dashboard by clicking the Upgrade button in your navigation bar. [1] [1] https://docs.hrzn.cool/pics/add_private_domain
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most people do not have 100 GB of media on hand, ... I have over 130 GB of media and really just started taking pictures two years ago. My mother for sure has way over 100 GB of media. My gf too. My father also has over 100 GB of media. And we all are not photographers or people who must take pictures of everything. 100 GB is not that much really, especially since everybody cat take 4K pictures and record 4K videos…
By the term "media", I was referring to OP's potential usecase of Horizon, like their screenshots and screen recordings. I think you're framing Horizon as potential photo backup, in which case, it is not designed nor meant for that.